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Old 08-04-2008   #1
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Announcement From the Mods

In light of recent events and questions about moderator actions, we, as moderators have collectively decided to put out these explanations to address some concerns that have been broached on the forum.

When a person is warned or banned, unless it is a spammer or bot a moderator does not act without first discussing the issue with one or more of the other moderators. The person does not act without a consensus, so when a member is warned, consider it a warning from all moderators, not just one. As only one person can give out the warning, it may seem as though the moderator is acting alone, but he/she is not. We are all ultimately united in the actions that are done, including but not limited to: public warnings, private warnings, bans, post or thread moving/editing, or deletions.

Moderators are not just moderating other members, we moderate each other as well; most everyone is not privy to these discussions, but rest assured if and when moderator abuse could occur, we are aware of it.

We also make every attempt to adjust when and if a moderator cannot maintain objectivity.

We cannot be aware of every single infraction; we are mere humans and aren’t always conscious of a problem, either because we don’t read it, or if no one complains about it we feel as though if you’re not worried, we’re not worried. If flaming or other such rule breaking occurs, the report function is available for your use. We encourage you to use it.

We also encourage the use of PMs if you have an issue with us as moderators-or an issue in the general forum as well. All of us read and respond to PMs as often as we can.

The idea of mod elections has arisen several times, all amounting to nothing because, well, ultimately it would be a disaster; it would turn into a popularity contest, which is not the best idea. Moderators must be willing to be disliked for their decisions, and they must be able to maintain some sort of objectivity in most if not all issues.

Please think before you post. While we all know flaming is against the rules, inciting a flame is just as bad.

Through trial-and-error, we have found that, outside of following the rules of the forum (hint hint, nudge nudge, that's a link to the forum rules), using blanket punishments or a very strict 'three strikes and you're out' policy does not work well here. As a result, we are more inclined to handle any problem or any rule breaking brought to our attention on a case-by-case (or person by person) basis. Punishments, as stated, may include public or private warnings, post deletions, or bans.

Also, some of you may have recently received Private Messages or have seen the thread which included screen shots of banter in the Mod Forum about issues going on in the forum and comments about certain members. Although several of the shots included posts taken completely out of context (warping their meaning), others genuinely included offensive comments about certain members of the forum.

For this, all the mods would like to extend our sincere apologies and let you know that we will refrain from such ill-advised comments in the future. We regret any anger this may have caused, as none of us meant any harm to anyone.

Finally, feel free to PM ANY mod with comments, responses, suggestions, or questions about this post. We ask that you keep your responses out of the general forum, because number one it is against forum rules, and number two, as many of you have observed, those types of threads tend to become free-for-alls that achieve nothing but headaches. For those of you who are not aware of all of our moderators, this list should help you out. Thank you!
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Old 05-13-2011   #2
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Re: Announcement From the Mods

Note from THIS moderator: To any and all newcomers to the site: I have ZERO patience with spammers. Period. If you go through the trouble of creating an account solely for the purpose of posting random commercial advertisements in the forum, YOU WILL BE BANNED PERMANENTLY. I WILL NOT GIVE YOU A SECOND CHANCE! If you want to join the community, I expect you to act in a respectful and intelligent manner and post material which we might be inspired to read and reply to. Otherwise, I'll kick your miserable asses to the curb.
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Re: Announcement From the Mods

Just to clear up confusion, this Announcement from the Mods is from years ago; able is just updating it.

Also, able...I'm not sure that spammers read threads. I think it's one of those automated responses to words and they sign up somehow. They don't care if they get banned as long as they are able to post their stuff and move on. At least, that's what I understand from it; they tend to post about 10 posts, sometimes more, sometimes less, and move on.
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Re: Announcement From the Mods

I know that. I just felt that the thread needed refreshing and at that moment the "who is online" page showed me and about 7 bots/spam accounts.
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Re: Announcement From the Mods

I agree, I just wanted to clear up some confusion I got via PM about this thread, haha.

I think it's an automated thing; the computer automatically signs up for a forum and goes back to it periodically to attempt to post. A buuuunch of these spambots have the same IP address.
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