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Old 08-03-2009   #1
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Go to College or Go to Hell!

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Some parents of faith have long worried about the possible impact of (secular) colleges on the religious observances of their children.
A new national study that looks at trends between study of certain subjects and religious observance provides some evidence to back up those worries, but also may surprise members of some disciplines and some faiths. And the research also finds that religious students are more likely than others to attend college. The study is by four scholars at the University of Michigan and was released Monday by the National Bureau of Economic Research (abstract and ordering information available here).
Among the findings:
  • The odds of going to college increase for high school students who attend religious services more frequently or who view religion as more important in their lives. The researchers speculate that there may be a "nagging theory" in which fellow churchgoers encourage the students to attend college.
  • Being a humanities or a social science major has a statistically significant negative effect on religiosity -- measured by either religious attendance and how important students consider the importance of religion in their lives. The impact appears to be strongest in the social sciences.
  • Students in education and business show an increase in religiosity over their time at college.
  • Majoring in the biological or physical sciences does not affect religious attendance of students, but majoring in the physical sciences does negatively relate to the way students view the importance of religion in their lives.
  • Religious attendance is positively associated with staying in majors in the social sciences, biological sciences and business majors. For most vocational majors, the researchers found a negative relationship between religious attendance and staying in the same major. The researchers compare this finding to their data about how students who attend services are more likely to enroll in college in the first place: "In both cases, religious attendance encourages a shift toward a higher status path."
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Don't worry kids. The studies still show that those who consider religion less important in their lives are more intelligent than those who do.

I guess we just don't want or need secondary education. Hell, I had enough difficulty with primary schooling.
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Re: Go to College or Go to Hell!

They might as well have substituted "less analytical/skeptical" with religious. There's a reason 93% of the International Board of Scientists (name might b slightly off) are non religious.
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Re: Go to College or Go to Hell!

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They might as well have substituted "less analytical/skeptical" with religious. There's a reason 93% of the International Board of Scientists (name might b slightly off) are non religious.
^ Exactly.
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Don't worry kids. The studies still show that those who consider religion less important in their lives are more intelligent than those who do.

I guess we just don't want or need secondary education. Hell, I had enough difficulty with primary schooling.
Huh. Fascinating. Even more fascinating than ever-arbitrary statistics!

I, on the other hand, who am religious (sometimes *cough*), was on the high honor roll in high school and graduated with honors at my college with a GPA of 3.9.

See, isn't it easier determining whether or not *one* person is stupid, rather than holistically defaming a whole group of people with useless generalizations and dubious statistics? I'm so glad we agree.
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Re: Go to College or Go to Hell!

You know, 80% of the world's population are religious.

And I forgot to include a word.

So sorry.

It sounds like you did better than I did in school. I had objections to doing school work and remain more knowledgeable than my classmates.
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You know, 80% of the world's population are religious.

And I forgot to include a word.

So sorry.

It sounds like you did better than I did in school. I had objections to doing school work and remain more knowledgeable than my classmates.
Actually, I'm sorry. I should really stop responding to people--and you, in particular ()--so impetuously and...crazily. Ack. Sorry.

I can see a correlation between the discipline that is often (*sigh*) evident with those who hold religious beliefs and a willingness to apply that same discipline and tenacity to (secular) school work. Then again, it is still useless to generalize; non-religious people do often maintain that the same sort of rigorous discipline and tenacity--required to acquire good scores and such--equally as well. Really, I don't see a point in generalizing about that.

Then...again, there are different kinds of intelligence. And not everyone is suited for (further) formal education, as you said. And I think that's okay.

Moreover, the secular world will never view or measure intelligence (and faith) the same way the religious will. And vice versa. Not until something changes. This seems to be more a matter of heart versus mind.

*Obsequiously waits to be bludgeoned with tepid vegetables and the occasional sharpened rock*
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Re: Go to College or Go to Hell!

*throws a carrot at Rachael*

Don't apologize to me, girl. I can understand how this kind of thread would irritate you.
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Yeah, the truth is often times 'irritating'. It's rough out here in reality land.
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Re: Go to College or Go to Hell!

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Don't apologize to me, girl. I can understand how this kind of thread would irritate you.
*Throws an oversized asparagus back...gently*

I feel I should. While I disagree with you and these general assumptions, you actually seem to have a soul; unlike some...

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Goodness! Did you just use the "t" word?

Certainly, someone who is so keen on slandering and avoiding association with "religious myths" would not use such a word as "truth" in reference to his own worldview.

Also, I would rather be in Fantasy Land if it lessens my interactions with cynical, sordid people like you.
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*Throws an oversized asparagus back...gently*
Raw asparagus I hope. I dislike the taste, texture and smell of cooked asparagus.

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I feel I should. While I disagree with you and these general assumptions, you actually seem to have a soul; unlike some...
Maybe I do have a soul.

Maybe I'm even super bad.
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