Rap: love it or hate it??

Majin · 06-25-2003

So...pretty self explanatory, really.

I personally despise rap, hip hop, and whatever else you can call it.

psychoDiablo · 06-26-2003

i fucking hate rap.

we have some of that Underground hip hop here in the 805. its actually not bad. im kinda getting into it now.

but i fucking hate rap.

cloud_burnside · 06-27-2003

i really can't stand rap myself. im a black guy too (if that even matters). all i listen to is rock, metal, punk, and alternative. my fave bands are bands like linkin park, deftones, evanescence, earshot, cold, adema, metallica, mudvayne, slipknot, koRn, blink 182, etc. I just could never get into rap. like ive heard b4..."you cant spell crap without rap"

kyle · 06-27-2003

rap sucks people say its hard to make the songs cuz you have to rhyme the words, well its easy to rhym words when you put a 'Z' in every word and end it with the letter O.

Daniel · 06-27-2003

I own 4 rap cds, NWA - Legacy, Tupac - Greatest Hits, Snoop - Doggystyle, Dr. Dre - The Chronic. All have a couple things in common, they have great songs on them and all west coast rappers from the late 80's and early 90's.

Rap has completly sucked since 93, even though it wasn't that great even then. But The Chronic is one of the best cd's I have ever heard.

But Linkin Park raps, they rap to god damn much, but I hate them because there musicians are horrible. Rage, Deftones (kinda) and some of the best bands today use rap/rhyme styles. So it is not without its influences, but with all that said, I think it is now an inferior genre of music. Seems to be so popular because it used to be so 'diffrenet' to listen to, now it IS the mainstream, and anyone who can make a rhyme can make a million.

tynie · 06-27-2003

Rap WAS good, emphasize on the "was". Now with all this "gangsta rap" shit, rap music has gone down. I like rap, but old-school rap, Public Enemy (sp), Run DMC, and NWA. Maybe a little Snoop Dogg, but as of now, rap has got to be the worst genre of msuic, next to polka.

spadetje · 06-27-2003

I like Eminem!
But I don't like all that Ja Rule shit.

Blood Red · 06-27-2003

G-UNIT !

Chris85 · 06-27-2003

I despise rap with a burning passion, nuff said.

Blood Red · 06-27-2003

well, since i have to have a broad taste in music, i enjoy rap, but not that hardcore gangster rap. 50-Cent is great, dre really hooked those beats up. i had Nappy Root's CD Watermellon, Chicken, And Grits, spinning for awhile. Cypress Hill too, but that more rock/rap then rap

Let me show you how to greet me, when you meet me, when you see me. If you real my nigga, you know how to holla "G-Unit!" - 50 Cent - High All The Time

Nappy Roots - Awnaw

Daniel · 06-28-2003

If I have to hear the word 'holla' again I might hurt someone. I just think it is funny how people who listen to rap like it because they talk about bitches and hoes and how much 'bling and ice' they have. Like the people who idolize them for that. KRS-One or Chuck D don't talk about that shit, they rap about social shit, to bad they don't get what they deserve.

junkass82 · 06-28-2003

raps not great, i find theres no depth... i dont understand how someone can rehash the same shit all over again, and just change a note. Or they rip off some oldy goldie song and call it their own. Its retarded how commercial the whole thing gets, everyones in it for the money. That to me says its not music...
nuff said

geminijoe28 · 06-29-2003

the types of music i like ranges from anything and everything so i like rap. the one thing i dont like about rap is that they sample other pp's music..be original i say..but some rappers i like are
dr. dre, snoop dogg, eminem, busta rhymes, ludacris. the other songs i like are basically what you hear on the radio sometimes. old school rap is good i downloaded a song called "back to the hotel" by N2Deep, that i really like...i also like the song "it's like that" by Run DMC...that song is killer!

not sure if it happened but i read metallica did a song or a remix with dr. dre or something like that? has anyone heard it, if so was it good?

ceilirince · 06-29-2003

I use to listen to rap but I just got so sick of it. I started to think why am I listening to this. I can't relate at all. The songs are abuot pimping getting ho's the bling bling or shoes. A song about shoes that is a real worth while song. not. Now I just cannot stand rap. Don't know why I ever listened to it in the first place. Oh I know cuase my older sister did. I get crap about the music I love. I love rock and metal. At school I had permission to use the stereo in gym class. I put on a cd that was rock. People kept going over and taking my cd out and putting rap in. Or jsut pulling the plug. Or I was in the weight room only a couple of us in there listening to last resort and having fun a person walks in pulls the plug and walks out. My school is dominated by rap music. Rock is discriminated against. I got so sick of being forced to listen to rap.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROCK AND METAL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!

thirstygodiva · 07-01-2003

RAP IS CRAP!!!!!!!

Daniel · 07-01-2003

So be happy you are not part of the 'mainstream' then. Probably just means you have a better head on your shoulders and you don't care about going with the flow.

HappyPhantom · 07-04-2003

I'm a big fan of rap. Ofcourse I'm a hip-hop dancer, so it's part of what I love to do. I just think it's extremly creative, fun, and upbeat.

spadetje · 07-04-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by HappyPhantom
I'm a big fan of rap. Ofcourse I'm a hip-hop dancer, so it's part of what I love to do. I just think it's extremly creative, fun, and upbeat.

Ha thats like my good friend jody...she teaches dance and stuff. Thats pretty cool, rap isnt to bad unless you're all ghettostupid about it. But most dance-teachers arent anyway.

Wobbie · 07-05-2003

it's not as simple as loving or hating rap.

I'm not a fan of all of the shit that's in the charts at the moment. It's more 'shit-pop' than 'hip-hop' I'm talking about Nelly and shit like that. doing anything for a sale (he did a song with nsync for fuck's sake).

But when it's done well, and in the spirit of the music (yes music, not just sampled beats and beeps) in bands like 'Gruvis Malt', 'Faith No More', 'King Mungi', 3rd Strike', Beastie Boys', The Roots', 'Superheist', 'Jurassic 5', and bands like that, it's not bad.

Sure most of the stuff i listen to doesn't have any rap at all, but some bands do it well, and good on them for expanding the musical scope.

Flipkid · 07-05-2003

The way that i look at it is that it is technically music by definition, but in my mind it's not. You have the music which is made by a machine not instruments, MACHINES. Granted, putting together a series of noises and making it work does take some talent, but i know plenty of people who could never play a musical instrument in their life and yet can still put together a kick ass sounding song on the computer. The thing that gets me are the actual rappers themselves. RAP HAS BECOME MORE AN IMAGE THEN ANYTHING ELSE IT ACCOMPLISHES. And yes to a certain extent so has rock, and country, etc. But have you noticed how all rappers try to display the same badass player, droptop driving, bitch fucking, gun toting tough guy attitude. And that's fine they have every right to do so. It just seems so monotonous that every week a new rapper comes out and it's the same thing all over again. I myself am very open minded with music, If it sounds get and it can pump me up, I'll listen. But when i think of the word music, the first thing comes to mind is talent. Look at jazz and blues. The majority of the songs in these categories are incredibly complex in musical design. Now a portion of todays mainstream music consists of three chords one bass line and a 4/4 beat on the drums. Then you get into the stuff like killswitch engage, A.F.I., NoFx, Haste the Day, Thrice, all of which have taken instumental usage to a new level. And there are many more from almost every genre that have done the same, including rap. But i guess my point is, if i can make good money and become famous by playing a 4/4 beat on a drum machine then why the fuck am i still a non famous full time worker. Answer: because almost anyone can do it.

06-25-2003	#1
Majin Trainee Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The fiery pits of hell. Age: 35 Posts: 35 Rep Power: 35	Rap: love it or hate it?? So...pretty self explanatory, really. I personally despise rap, hip hop, and whatever else you can call it. __________________ "All problems can be solved by the death of a man-no man, no problem."-Joseph Stalin

06-26-2003	#2
psychoDiablo Thx for the memories Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,971 Rep Power: 204	i fucking hate rap. we have some of that Underground hip hop here in the 805. its actually not bad. im kinda getting into it now. but i fucking hate rap. __________________ I wouldn't say I'm psycho only because I'm able to handle it. Now learn patience To chill is to be chillin. Chillin is cooperating with your surroundings, unknowing'st of what everything is capable of; and all the while, as it happens and after, to accept without any thought of good or bad, but mainly, just enjoying rather deeply, the moment you had to sit and think. (Not thinking.) \|-Mr.MCR-\| Will you write Will you love Will you enjoy Life when I am gone? You will. by Angelina "I have lived life as horrible as it was, and as beautiful as it has become."

06-27-2003	#3
cloud_burnside Newbie Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: north carolina Age: 38 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	i really can't stand rap myself. im a black guy too (if that even matters). all i listen to is rock, metal, punk, and alternative. my fave bands are bands like linkin park, deftones, evanescence, earshot, cold, adema, metallica, mudvayne, slipknot, koRn, blink 182, etc. I just could never get into rap. like ive heard b4..."you cant spell crap without rap" __________________ cloud_burnside

06-27-2003	#4
kyle Lawl ^^ Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ft. Wayne IN Age: 34 Posts: 3,360 Rep Power: 57	rap sucks people say its hard to make the songs cuz you have to rhyme the words, well its easy to rhym words when you put a 'Z' in every word and end it with the letter O. __________________

06-27-2003	#5
Daniel Well Known Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newport Beach, CA Age: 40 Posts: 285 Rep Power: 36	I own 4 rap cds, NWA - Legacy, Tupac - Greatest Hits, Snoop - Doggystyle, Dr. Dre - The Chronic. All have a couple things in common, they have great songs on them and all west coast rappers from the late 80's and early 90's. Rap has completly sucked since 93, even though it wasn't that great even then. But The Chronic is one of the best cd's I have ever heard. But Linkin Park raps, they rap to god damn much, but I hate them because there musicians are horrible. Rage, Deftones (kinda) and some of the best bands today use rap/rhyme styles. So it is not without its influences, but with all that said, I think it is now an inferior genre of music. Seems to be so popular because it used to be so 'diffrenet' to listen to, now it IS the mainstream, and anyone who can make a rhyme can make a million. __________________ View my riddiculous music folder here [Updated 03-25-2004]

06-27-2003	#6
tynie You're Klaus Nomi, I'm Etta James Join Date: May 2003 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 3,066 Rep Power: 55	Rap WAS good, emphasize on the "was". Now with all this "gangsta rap" shit, rap music has gone down. I like rap, but old-school rap, Public Enemy (sp), Run DMC, and NWA. Maybe a little Snoop Dogg, but as of now, rap has got to be the worst genre of msuic, next to polka. __________________ What I want is to be needed. What I need is to be indispensable to somebody. Who I need is somebody that will eat up all my free time, my ego, my attention. Somebody addicted to me. A mutual addiction.-Choke, Chuck Palahniuk

06-27-2003	#7
spadetje pretty in life & pretty in death Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,582 Rep Power: 25039	I like Eminem! But I don't like all that Ja Rule shit. __________________ "These days, all it takes for your dreams to come true is money and power." - President Shinra, FFVII .TranceAddicted. .Hardcore.Hardstyle.Trance.

06-27-2003	#8
Blood Red Bleed to the red Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Middle of nowhere Posts: 2,104 Rep Power: 50	G-UNIT ! __________________

06-27-2003	#9
Chris85 Well Known Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Waterloo, Nebraska Age: 37 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 36	I despise rap with a burning passion, nuff said.

06-28-2003	#11
Daniel Well Known Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newport Beach, CA Age: 40 Posts: 285 Rep Power: 36	If I have to hear the word 'holla' again I might hurt someone. I just think it is funny how people who listen to rap like it because they talk about bitches and hoes and how much 'bling and ice' they have. Like the people who idolize them for that. KRS-One or Chuck D don't talk about that shit, they rap about social shit, to bad they don't get what they deserve. __________________ View my riddiculous music folder here [Updated 03-25-2004]

06-28-2003	#12
junkass82 Newbie Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	raps not great, i find theres no depth... i dont understand how someone can rehash the same shit all over again, and just change a note. Or they rip off some oldy goldie song and call it their own. Its retarded how commercial the whole thing gets, everyones in it for the money. That to me says its not music... nuff said

06-29-2003	#13
geminijoe28 Well Known Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Donna, Texas Age: 42 Posts: 246 Rep Power: 36	the types of music i like ranges from anything and everything so i like rap. the one thing i dont like about rap is that they sample other pp's music..be original i say..but some rappers i like are dr. dre, snoop dogg, eminem, busta rhymes, ludacris. the other songs i like are basically what you hear on the radio sometimes. old school rap is good i downloaded a song called "back to the hotel" by N2Deep, that i really like...i also like the song "it's like that" by Run DMC...that song is killer! not sure if it happened but i read metallica did a song or a remix with dr. dre or something like that? has anyone heard it, if so was it good? __________________ Quis custôdiet ipsôs custôdês? who will guard the guardians?

06-29-2003	#14
ceilirince Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan Age: 34 Posts: 140 Rep Power: 36	I use to listen to rap but I just got so sick of it. I started to think why am I listening to this. I can't relate at all. The songs are abuot pimping getting ho's the bling bling or shoes. A song about shoes that is a real worth while song. not. Now I just cannot stand rap. Don't know why I ever listened to it in the first place. Oh I know cuase my older sister did. I get crap about the music I love. I love rock and metal. At school I had permission to use the stereo in gym class. I put on a cd that was rock. People kept going over and taking my cd out and putting rap in. Or jsut pulling the plug. Or I was in the weight room only a couple of us in there listening to last resort and having fun a person walks in pulls the plug and walks out. My school is dominated by rap music. Rock is discriminated against. I got so sick of being forced to listen to rap. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROCK AND METAL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Kristyn babble babble bitch bitch rebel rebel party party sex sex sex and don't forget the violence blah blah blah got your lovey dovey sad and lonely stick the stupid slogan in everybody sing along -Marilyn manson The Golden age of Grotesque This is the new shit

07-01-2003	#15
thirstygodiva Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 122 Rep Power: 35	RAP IS CRAP!!!!!!! __________________ your health. may you live a thousand years.

07-04-2003	#17
HappyPhantom Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MI Age: 36 Posts: 83 Rep Power: 35	I'm a big fan of rap. Ofcourse I'm a hip-hop dancer, so it's part of what I love to do. I just think it's extremly creative, fun, and upbeat. __________________ By the time you've read this you've already read it

07-05-2003	#19
Wobbie Is Back Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Age: 41 Posts: 4,580 Rep Power: 57	it's not as simple as loving or hating rap. I'm not a fan of all of the shit that's in the charts at the moment. It's more 'shit-pop' than 'hip-hop' I'm talking about Nelly and shit like that. doing anything for a sale (he did a song with nsync for fuck's sake). But when it's done well, and in the spirit of the music (yes music, not just sampled beats and beeps) in bands like 'Gruvis Malt', 'Faith No More', 'King Mungi', 3rd Strike', Beastie Boys', The Roots', 'Superheist', 'Jurassic 5', and bands like that, it's not bad. Sure most of the stuff i listen to doesn't have any rap at all, but some bands do it well, and good on them for expanding the musical scope.

07-05-2003	#20
Flipkid Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centennial,CO Age: 38 Posts: 123 Rep Power: 37	The way that i look at it is that it is technically music by definition, but in my mind it's not. You have the music which is made by a machine not instruments, MACHINES. Granted, putting together a series of noises and making it work does take some talent, but i know plenty of people who could never play a musical instrument in their life and yet can still put together a kick ass sounding song on the computer. The thing that gets me are the actual rappers themselves. RAP HAS BECOME MORE AN IMAGE THEN ANYTHING ELSE IT ACCOMPLISHES. And yes to a certain extent so has rock, and country, etc. But have you noticed how all rappers try to display the same badass player, droptop driving, bitch fucking, gun toting tough guy attitude. And that's fine they have every right to do so. It just seems so monotonous that every week a new rapper comes out and it's the same thing all over again. I myself am very open minded with music, If it sounds get and it can pump me up, I'll listen. But when i think of the word music, the first thing comes to mind is talent. Look at jazz and blues. The majority of the songs in these categories are incredibly complex in musical design. Now a portion of todays mainstream music consists of three chords one bass line and a 4/4 beat on the drums. Then you get into the stuff like killswitch engage, A.F.I., NoFx, Haste the Day, Thrice, all of which have taken instumental usage to a new level. And there are many more from almost every genre that have done the same, including rap. But i guess my point is, if i can make good money and become famous by playing a 4/4 beat on a drum machine then why the fuck am i still a non famous full time worker. Answer: because almost anyone can do it. __________________ The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Today can't become tomorrow unless yesterday is left behind.

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