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Old 09-21-2008   #21
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Re: Well, DAMN!! LHC hit a big snag...

No matter what happens in the core of the LHC, it will not alter the Earth's ability to support life - human or otherwise.
Will.
Not.

Now, that doesn't mean that discoveries made in the LHC could ultimately lead to new and better ways to build machines or devices which could. No one, back in the late 19-teens, could have possibly imagined that the simple equation E=MC2 would lead to the nearly utter devastation of two Japanese cities and put the entire human population on the verge of extinction for 50 years. The understanding of the relationship between matter and energy has, however, helped humanity to answer some pretty puzzling questions which had been pondered for centuries.
It's not the machine; it's what we do with what we learn from operating it which is potentially devastating. Just as it always has been, Humanity's fate is in our own hands.
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Re: Well, DAMN!! LHC hit a big snag...

Why don't you work for NASA? lol
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Re: Well, DAMN!! LHC hit a big snag...

The security at LHC was not up to par.



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At this time an experiment attempt is being performed in CERN.

The reason we chose this page is to remind you of some things.

It [the deface] did not happen due to a conflict between us and CERN┬’s system administration team but because of the expected increase in number of visitors in the page in the next few days.

Some data from the base:

[...a c/p of the process listing follows...]

and some e-mails:

[...a c/p of e-mails follows...]

The ** have simply been placed so that we don┬’t expose people who has done nothing to anger us.

As we stated in the preamble, we do not want to destroy either the [operating] system or the website┬… Our purpose is to show, through action, our reaction to a lot of ┬“active┬” members of the GHS [Greek Hacking Scene] which has become arrogant (litteral translation of the phrase ┬“╬š╬▒╬▓╬▒╬╗╬«¤ƒ╬Á╬╣ ¤„╬┐ ╬║╬▒╬╗╬Č╬╝╬╣┬”, riding the stick) without offering anything┬…

Stupid cliques get created simply to insult and cause trouble (translated from ┬“¤„¤ü╬▒╬╝¤€╬┐¤Ź╬║╬┐¤‚┬”, insulting troublemaker, ┬“¤„¤ü╬▒╬╝¤€╬┐¤…╬║╬»╬¤‰┬”, cause insult & trouble) through either words or IRC channel banning people who are not considered, by them or their flunkies, worthy of their knowlege and their image.

Some others, the 1337 (leet, elite) of the ┬“scene┬”, only chat over cups of coffee and don┬’t do anything practical, as they are good at gossiping┬…but of ┬“security┬”┬…what is that? we are 2600┬…don┬’t mess with us.

IRRELEVANT AND QUAINT!

Stop salivating and licking and start keyboarding! But, of course, criticising is easy especially when you have many 20year-olds around whispering ┬“2600Ô€│-┬”2600Ô€│. Get yourselves in insomnia.gr and start gossiping (litteral translation of ┬“╬Ş╬Č╬▓╬Á¤„╬Á ╬╝╬Á ╬╝╬Á╬│╬Č╬╗╬┐ ¤†¤„¤…╬Ȥü╬╣┬”, burrying people through gossiping with a big shovel)┬…But it will also bear the seal of GST.

We are everywhere┬…because unlike you we don┬’t spend our nights writing songs or ┬“rapping┬” away in public squares┬…nor do we laugh at what we cannot touch┬…

We don┬’t publicly expose you (translated from ┬“╬ż╬Á╬▓¤ü╬▒╬║¤Ž╬Ż╬┐¤…╬╝╬Á┬”, pulling your underpants down, Greek expression) because we don┬’t want to see you all running like mad and naked trying to find a hiding place and because we are not like you. You should, however, expect the response when you were laughing at things you had never considered doing┬…but we have spent enough time dealing with a bunch of schoolkids who learned about hacking through Hollywood movies and their dumb American culture of the neo-geek who reads hacking magazines while trying to crack his girlfriend┬’s e-mail account to see if she┬’s being unfaithful and has Linux on dual-boot to pose (translated from ┬“¤ˆ╬▒¤ü¤Ž╬Ż╬Á╬╣┬”, Greek expression) to his mates who also read neo-hacking mania-inspired magazines.

The entire Greek Internet is riddled with holes┬…some of the biggest government sites don┬’t even know the term ┬“security┬”┬…since they assign the design of their sites to irrelevant companies.

SECURITY IS NOT CONDUCTED BY PAY-OFFS.

We are everywhere┬…

We salute the real hobbyists and the fanciers of the art of computers. Some old ones who stopped because they were bored and tired not with this art but with the stuck-up attitude (translated from ┬“╬║¤Œ╬╝¤€╬╗╬Á╬ż┬”) of all those ┬“specialists┬” in the field!! And the young ones who don┬’t say many words but work with their heads down because what they care about is knowledge, and only knowledge!!

Dear CERN admins we patched the biggest BUG in your webpage so it doesn┬’t turn into a Dork and gets defaced every day with the silliness of every wannabe hacker.

Don┬’t try to find us┬…We will find you┬…pretty soon!!!

Tnx Mr Server [lxplus.cern.ch]

_Greek Security Team_ - [.GST]
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Re: Well, DAMN!! LHC hit a big snag...

It is scheduled to be operational again around the middle of next month. Higgs boson anyone?

On a related note, the Tevatron Hadron Collider will be shutting down next year, assuming that all goes well with the LHC.
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Re: Well, DAMN!! LHC hit a big snag...

lol: 4 years behind schedule and $2.08 billion over budget. And still counting.

By the time the CERN particle collider is up and running someone else will have a benchtop laser that makes streams of antimatter. Oh wait, they already have: https://newsline.llnl.gov/_rev02/art...antimatter.php

A better approach than "lets give these physicists access to a huge amount of money" would have been to make a series of X-Prize type contests to make a smaller particle accelerator. Over the course of 15 years the program could have developed a well-engineered package that would've cost less than 4 billion dollars and might have actually worked...
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LHC is back online!!


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Big Bang atom smasher sends beams in 2 directions
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By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer ľ 53 mins ago

GENEVA ľ The world's largest atom smasher made another leap forward Monday by circulating beams of protons in opposite directions at the same time in the $10 billion machine after more than a year of repairs, organizers said.

New discoveries on the makeup of universe and its tiniest particles are unlikely before next year, but the Large Hadron Collider has been advancing faster than expected in its startup phase that began Friday night, said Rolf Heuer, director-general of the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

Proton collisions could possibly begin within the next 10 days, officials said Monday.

"It went much faster than foreseen," said Fabiola Gianotti, who speaks for the Atlas experiment, one of four major detectors in rooms the size of cathedrals about 100 meters (300 feet) underground. "We're all very happy."

Ultimately, the collider aims to create conditions like they were 1 trillionth to 2 trillionths of a second after the Big Bang Ś which scientists think marked the creation of the universe billions of years ago. Physicists also hope the collider will help them see and understand other suspected phenomena, such as dark matter, antimatter and supersymmetry.

The collider was started with great fanfare Sept. 10, 2008, only to be heavily damaged by an electrical fault nine days later. It has taken 14 months to repair and add protection systems to the machine before it was restarted.

The protons on Monday were traveling at almost the speed of light Ś 11,000 times a second in each direction around the 27-kilometer (17-mile) tunnel under the Swiss-French border at Geneva. The scientists are still testing the machine before causing proton collisions, the heart of the research at the organization, known as CERN.

So far the machine is operating at 450 billion electron volts of energy, which is relatively low compared with its design capability of 14 times that. It soon will overtake the world's current most powerful accelerator, the Tevatron at Fermilab outside Chicago, which operates at 1 trillion electron volts, or TeV.

Steve Myers, the director for accelerators, said the CERN collider should be ramped up to 1.2 TeV by Christmas. CERN might decide to make the first collisions at the current low energy or at 1.2 TeV, but that will be more for calibration purposes than for making scientific discoveries.

Physicists said the discoveries could begin in the first half of next year when the collider reaches 3.5 TeV.

Myers said the collider may even go up to 5 TeV before the end of the year.

Tejinder S. Virdee, a physicist from London's Imperial College who represents more than 2,000 scientists on the experiment at CERN, said it could take several years before the collider discovers the elusive Higgs boson, a particle that theoretically gives mass to other subatomic particles, and thus everything in the universe.

That is because the Higgs boson is believed to be hard to see and needs powerful energy to be revealed, Virdee said.

"This is going to take a few years," he said.

The collider will eventually create conditions many millionths of a second closer than the previous closest to the Big Bang, at which matter is believed to have changed very quickly as the universe cooled rapidly and expanded.

"Nature is always more," said Gianotti. "There would be no charm if we knew now."
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^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

It's so exciting!!!
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Step aside, Tevatron

The big boy is up and running again!


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CERN: Big Bang machine sets power record
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GENEVA ľ Scientists say the world's largest atom smasher has broken the record for proton acceleration, sending beams of the particles at 1.18 trillion electron volts.

A statement by the European Organization for Nuclear Research says the Large Hadron Collider eclipses the previous high, which was just short of 1 Tev at Fermilab outside Chicago.

The latest success Monday at the LHC is part of the preparation to go much higher for significant experiments to start next year on the makeup of matter and the universe.

It comes on top of a rapid series of operating advances of the machine, which underwent extensive repairs and improvements after it collapsed during the opening phase last year.
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