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Old 06-05-2011   #1
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Knowing Me... Would This Work?

So I've been talking to this girl I met on OkCupid a lot. I had made a big mistake when she told me she didn't drink and I said "Well, you can just watch me drink." She replied with "I'm a recovering alcoholic so the prospect of watching someone drink doesn't appeal to me."

Well, I apologized profusely and all was well. Then, last night, I told her about how I used to have serious drug problems. She asked if I ever went to Narcotics Anonymous. I immediately wanted to respond saying "I would never go to through a Twelve-Step Program." but decided to just say "No."

Nothing against the Twelve-step Programs. I just don't believe in God so I don't know how I could get through most of the 12 steps which require affirming belief in a higher power.

Besides that, I haven't done drugs since November 7th. I think I'm capable of not doing them all on my own.

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But I wonder, knowing my past and how I enjoy drinking, would a relationship with her work? She claims that she wouldn't have a problem with me drinking. She was apparently hanging out with her sisters and their husbands last night while she was texting me, albeit as a "distraction from drunk people".

I can go without drinking too, if I need to. Sure, I still enjoy it but lately I have only been drinking 3-4 times a month.

What do you all think?
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

Do you think you'll need a bit of dutch courage to meet her? I always mess things up when drink is involved, maybe it'd be a good thing to just not drink anyway?

Also on a side note, do all the drug programmes there involve God??
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

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Do you think you'll need a bit of dutch courage to meet her?
Normally, I'd say yes. However, she and I get along quite famously, it would seem. We are both, in my opinion, very funny and nerdy individuals. I am 29 and she is 27, so there is no big difference in age.

Our first conversation went something like this:

  • Me: Your profile is humorous. My only qualm is that "bow staff" is misspelled. The word is "bo" and it's short for bojutsu. Sorry to be "that guy" or "that asshole".
    Also, while I am self-taught, I am pretty good with this weapon. I wanted to be a monk when I grew up. Friar Tuck fights with a quarterstaff, doesn't he?
  • Her: Yes that was pointed out to me , ive been meaning to correct it. it's cool, i can handle a little constructive criticism. no, friar tuck had a kitana.
  • Me: lol...
    Ahh, yes, the legend of Robin Hood and his Merry Men is coming back to me now.
    BANZAI!
  • Her: He also had a fatality that involved turning into a lizard and spitting facemelting acid in his opponent's face.
  • Me: I am walking away smiling. (And are you sure that's not an animality?)
  • Her: I think I know my classic literature, thank you very much.

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I always mess things up when drink is involved, maybe it'd be a good thing to just not drink anyway?
Well, it might be. At least around her. At first. She doesn't seem to have a problem hanging out with her two sisters and husbands-in-law while they drink and play video games. But I already told her that I wouldn't drink around her if she didn't want me to.

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Also on a side note, do all the drug programmes there involve God??
The Twelve-step Program itself, no matter if it is for alcoholism, narcotics, overeating, working too much, etc., if built around submitting to a higher power because you admit that you can't control yourself, or something like that.

Just see:

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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

admitting that you need something more than yourself to quit your substance abuse. They don't use "God" in the 12 steps because they know some people don't believe in god. they use higher-power, because, on the road to recovery, most people simply cannot quit by themselves. they need the higher-power, to control themselves so they will not use. it works beautifully if you truly know, you cannot quit using on your own.

as for you EC, would it be too hard for you to not drink when you kick it with her?
if i were her and you're still talking about drinking, i wouldn't care to meet you. recovering alcoholics are exactly that until they die.
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as for you EC, would it be too hard for you to not drink when you kick it with her?
No, it wouldn't be hard at all.

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I thought so too but she still hangs out with drinking people.
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

ya know, it could work in your favor to take her away from the drinking people... like take her out, but to chill or whatever. get away from the party scene. shit, whydont you two go run together? somethin
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

Sounds like a good idea.

The drinking people are her sisters and husbands-in-law though... so I guess she's in good hands.
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

yeah, some family... we know you're going through a lot trying to stay sober, but we're still going to drink around you....
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

this could be your biggest moment
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Hahaha. my finest hour.
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bring barq's root beer
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how long has she been sober?
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Three years since she had a relapse. Two years before the relapse.
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

EC, what's your drug problem involve? Like speed and uppers and shit right?

Anyway, seems good that you've found someone you're getting along well with, and it's an extra plus that she's one of the ones with a vagina!! Those are always fun while they last.

And I feel you about the 12 step program thing. Believing in God is totally wack and I laugh at those who do. (See my signature).
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no need to knock the 12 step... it may very well be the one thing to help all of you with your drug problems.
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I know I am verbose but that don't mean you fellas can't read my whole post. At least I write correctly and with the proper punctuation for easy readability.

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EC, what's your drug problem involve? Like speed and uppers and shit right?
Well, I don't have a drug problem any more, per se. I still take my prescribed amphetamine salts (Adderall). However, I do not abuse it. I the amount (or less!) that I am prescribed each day.


The drugs I was abusing were more serious than just uppers. I was taking a lot of painkillers. Hydrocodone and oxycodone especially, with the latter often being snorted.

I was also smoking weed then too. I haven't done anything since November 7th, which was the last time I smoked pot. The last time I did painkillers was sometime in October.

I still take adderall, of course.


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Anyway, seems good that you've found someone you're getting along well with, and it's an extra plus that she's one of the ones with a vagina!! Those are always fun while they last.
I know, right? Thing is... she hasn't responded to me for two hours now. I mean like... goddammit, she starts a conversation about masturbation which is, I must say, intriguing and surprising. I responded whimsically. I thought I would get a response from that. Nothing.

Granted, it could be that she was nearing the end of her work day and had shit to do.

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no need to knock the 12 step... it may very well be the one thing to help all of you with your drug problems.
Again, I don't need a program like that to stop using. I already have and I did it on my own.

The way Twelve-step programs work is actually a form of mind control. I am not saying that is a bad thing. I am only pointing out that similar tactics are used.
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lol mind control. getting yourself to admit to being an alcoholic is mind control lol
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Re: Knowing Me... Would This Work?

Update: We still talk practically daily via AIM/text messages. (AIM for me, texts for her.) We haven't met yet.
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Get it done.
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Agreed. Finish it / start it...
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