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Old 10-20-2011   #1
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Gaddafi got Shot

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Reports surface of Gadhafi's capture, death
By the CNN Wire Staff
October 20, 2011 -- Updated 1306 GMT (2106 HKT)


ripoli, Libya (CNN) -- Conflicting reports surfaced Thursday that deposed Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi is dead or has been captured. Deafening celebrations erupted in Tripoli, but none of the reports could be independently verified.

Gadhafi was killed, AbdelHakim Bilhajj, head of the National Transitional Council's military arm in Tripoli announced live on Al-Jazeera Arabic Thursday. Gadhafi's death was also reported by National Transitional Council television station Al-Ahrar. It did not cite a source.

A cell phone photograph distributed by the news agency Agence France Presse appeared to show the arrest of a bloodied Gadhafi. CNN could not independently verify the authenticity of the image.

Gadhafi's capture was also reported by Libyan television, citing the Misrata Military Council.

Earlier, a National Transitional Council military spokesman told CNN that reports of Gadhafi's capture are only rumors. Abdurahman Bousin added that it's doubtful that Gadhafi was even in or around his hometown of Sirte.

A "big fish" has been captured in Libya, but Libyan Information Minister Mahmoud Shammam couldn't say with certainty whether it was Gadhafi.

The U.S. State Department could not confirm any of the reports about Gadhafi's capture or killing, a spokeswoman said.

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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

who was he? another bin laden?
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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

A dictator and leader of Libya for 40 years. He got deprived of his power by his own people in a bloody revolution He shares that fate with other Arabian leader who got thrown of their thrown or are about to be deprived of their power.
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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

Muammar Gaddafi.

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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

Muammar al-Gaddafi, to be precise. ..but yea, I didn't notice it myself as well ;D

Lets just hope Libya will normalize again, now that he's gone, shot or executed, who knows.
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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

I have my doubts about it normalizing over there. Egypt is now having issues with the military government that's in place. I'm trying to find an article but I listened to an NPR news segment that talked about the military cracking down on protests, and that they've started to censor journalists over there.

(here's an article related to the censorship http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...b3L_story.html
Here's the story about the violence on the part of the Egyptian military. The temporary government denies it, but when it's on video, how can you deny it? http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79B3AD20111012)

I wonder whether it's going to move from one oppressive government to another in several of these Arab Spring countries. This is not to say that we should miss Gaddafi....
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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

it sounds good to be a warlord. it's just too bad people don't like you. lol
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A dictator and leader of Libya for 40 years. He got deprived of his power by his own people in a bloody revolution He shares that fate with other Arabian leader who got thrown of their thrown or are about to be deprived of their power.
Except Hussein was given a show trial.
At least that made his captors appear more humane than him...
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Egypt is now having issues with the military government that's in place.
The funny thing about that is that everyone was so happy here when they were told that the military was "taking over". Too bad it was always a Military Dictatorship with a figure head as a "top hat" to make everyone believe that it was something more... As far as I am concerned, not much as changed. Remove the top hat and you still have the same man, just less civilized looking and a little shorter.
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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

^ That's how I feel too; and I think the same thing has been going on all across the Arab Spring countries. They're all throwing out dictatorships and allowing people that are just as bad to take over.
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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

Not to mention that Gadhafi and Mubarak can hardly qualify as dictators in a comparative sense. I'm all for democratic revolutions, but I would not be surprised if these countries end up worse off than before.
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Re: Gadhafi got Shot

Bump. It looks like my earlier thoughts about the people taking over who are just as bad is coming true:

Islamists look to be major winners in Egypt's election.

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/01/wo...pagewanted=all

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the majority proves durable, the longer-term implications are hard to predict. The Brotherhood has pledged to respect basic individual freedoms while using the influence of the state to nudge the culture in a more traditional direction. But the Salafis often talk openly of laws mandating a shift to Islamic banking, restricting the sale of alcohol, providing special curriculums for boys and girls in public schools, and censoring the content of the arts and entertainment.

Their leaders have sometimes proposed that a special council of religious scholars advise Parliament or the top courts on legislation’s compliance with Islamic law. Egyptian election laws required the Salafi parties to put at least one woman on their electoral roster for each district, but they put the women last on their lists to ensure they would not be elected, and some appear with pictures of flowers in place of their faces on campaign posters.

Sheik Hazem Shouman, an important Salafi leader, recently rushed into a public concert on the campus of Mansoura University to try to persuade the crowd to turn away from the “sinful” performance and go home. He defended his actions on a television talk show, saying he had felt like a doctor making an emergency intervention to save a patient dying of cancer.
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Doesn't bode well for freedom in Egypt.
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^ Well, from what I've heard is that a 'moderate' Muslim party won the election. That was likely to happen, I mean, Egypt is an Islamic oriented counted after all.

Lets see what happens.
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Yeah, we've "heard" that they're moderate...but judging from some of their actions in Egypt since then, I don't know that the party is actually moderate.
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^ I know, which is why I think America should stay out of Libya and other such places. I'm merely saying that America's support of some of these parties in Egypt and other countries isn't smart....we should have learned from our intervention in Iran.
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^ Talking about Iran, crazy stuff is going around there right now.

The political climate is becoming more an more aggressive after Iranian 'demonstrators' attacked the British embassy. They don't say much on the news around my parts about the whole issue right now, what else happened? My last informations are that various diplomats were sent or called home and that Iranian forces shot down an expensive US spy-drone and that the Iran announced retaliation to happen but 'not on their own ground'.

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