petition

neomp5 · 09-08-2006

i can't sign this because i'm not american.

Dear MoveOn member,

In a little over 48 hours, ABC will air a five-hour "docudrama" on the 9/11 attacks. The movie was written and produced by a right-wing activist who fabricated key scenes to blame Democrats and defend Republicans.1 It's so partisan that even Rush Limbaugh was surprised ABC decided to air it.2 And an FBI agent who was brought in to consult on the docudrama quit because, he said, "they were making things up."3

Public outrage is mounting across the country, and Variety reports that ABC is now "mulling the idea of yanking the mini altogether."4 But we only have a little time to act. We'll start delivering this petition to ABC headquarters tomorrow at noon and continue as more signatures come in. So we're looking for 200,000 signatures TODAY.

Can you sign? Click here:
http://pol.moveon.org/abcdoc?id=8721...196elaWmSA&t=4

Then please pass on this message to folks you know who can help.

The Path to 9/11 appears to be part of a coordinated push—including speeches by President Bush and millions of dollars in advertising—to exploit the five-year anniversary of 9/11 for political gain. That's not acceptable from anyone—especially not a news organization like ABC.

It's not just that ABC's movie is slanted. Big parts of it are simply untrue. The producer himself even admitted to simply improvising a key scene which depicts the Clinton administration letting bin Laden go when they had him in their sights—a complete fabrication.5 Last night, the movie's star, Harvey Keitel, said "It turned out not all the facts were correct."6

It's really pretty simple: ABC shouldn't have any role in the political exploitation of 9/11. But this docudrama is designed to do just that—spreading a false message to millions of viewers across the country.

Sign the petition to tell ABC not to air partisan propaganda on 9/11. Click here:

http://pol.moveon.org/abcdoc?id=8721...196elaWmSA&t=5

Thank you for all you do.

–Nita, Eli, Carrie, Joan, Jennifer and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Friday, September 8th, 2006

P.S. For the most current information on the scandal involving this film, and for more information on the movie itself, please visit our friends at ThinkProgress:

http://www.thinkprogress.org

Sources:
1. "Writer of ABC's 9/11 'Docudrama' Is Avowed Conservative Activist," ThinkProgress, September 1, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2047&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=6

2. "Clintonoids Prepare To Attack 9/11 Movie," The Rush Limbaugh Show, August 30, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2049&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=7

3. "FBI Agent Who Consulted On Path to 9/11 Quit," ThinkProgress, September 7, 2006
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/fbi-agent-quit/

4. "Under fire, ABC mulls yanking mini," Variety, September 7, 2006
http://www.variety.com/VR1117949675.html

5. Greg Mitchell, Editor & Publisher, MSNBC appearance, September 7, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2077&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=8

6. "Harvey Keitel speaks out on Path to 9/11: 'It turned out not all the facts were correct'", Showbiz Tonight, September 7, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2078&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=9

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Higgins · 09-08-2006

stupid

SketchImpressions · 09-08-2006

i signed.

neomp5 · 09-08-2006

welll, that makes up for me

Blackass · 09-10-2006

It's worthless. Hell, I signed it just to prove how worthless it is.

Bamcubz · 09-10-2006

Written and produced by a right-wing activist....so you know its got to be true....come on you right-wing people here on AS....dont be a scared step up to the plate and put your name on this petition.

Higgins · 09-10-2006

Really, these liberals have to be the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth. Just because they don't agree with something means it should be completely gotten rid of? Seems like a very Stalinist tactic to me. And where are organizations like the ACLU stepping up to defend ABC's 1st Amendment rights? Oh wait, they only bitch when something goes against the left wing. What a fucking joke.

ablethevoice · 09-10-2006

I signed too.

neomp5 · 09-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Said by Higgins

Just because they don't agree with something means it should be completely gotten rid of?

oh, but it's different when spongebob is gay, right?

Higgins · 09-11-2006

uh, what

Jenn and tonic · 09-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Said by Bamcubz

Written and produced by a right-wing activist....so you know its got to be true....come on you right-wing people here on AS....dont be a scared step up to the plate and put your name on this petition.

I am not watching it and I could care less, however, I do like the nice thing they have in our constitution called 'free speech.' Even if it were left wing I'd still say it ought to be left alone.

You're just pissed because it skews against your views. Well hell then, give some money to Oliver Stone and he'll produce a great left wing docudrama and get it on t.v sooner or later.

neomp5 · 09-11-2006

lies presented as fact is an abuse of free speech, especially when presented to the general public through mass media.

Jenn and tonic · 09-11-2006

You could say the same thing about farenheit 9/11. Liberals LOVED that particular drama and saw and still see it as complete truth when it had a clear leftist slant...no one denied him the right to release his movie.

Also, if you don't like it, turn it off, plain and simple.

Blackass · 09-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Said by neomp5

lies presented as fact is an abuse of free speech, especially when presented to the general public through mass media.

LMAO, how many times have you referenced Michael Moore? All he does is present lies as facts.

cloud nine · 09-11-2006

jesus... your all starting to sound like fucking school children, arguging over who's turn it is to ride the damn tire-swing... and if it should spin left or right.

i may not be a republican... OR a democrat... but i'm sick of both types of idiot... and the arguments on this site NEVER change... democrats are too whiney and give too much shit away... republicans 'power overwhelming' and money for richies... or whatever the heck these arugments really boil down to.

Look, i just watched the show... FREE OF ANY BIAS... and i'll say it was a good flick, but ANYONE with half a brain in their skull knows that atleast half of it was pure speculation. Plus theres the situation of a certain DISCLAMER on the movie informing viewers that some parts have been 'fabricated' and other parts were 'overdramatized'...

Regardless, the movie didn't sway me "more left... or more right" ...it just made me realize how little we've actually done (CORRECTLY) since then.

At any rate, as far as getting into a poo flinging contest over who's dick is bigger (left or right wing) i could care less anymore. All this talk about politics is nothing but wasted pixels.

you can't change the past... even if hindsight is 20/20

(i'm going to have to make a filter that removes 'politics, religion and kyle' from any/all posts i may want to look at, so i don't have to hear the same old crap)

=-p

neomp5 · 09-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Said by Bleed Black

LMAO, how many times have you referenced Michael Moore? All he does is present lies as facts.

there is a reward out for anyone who can find a factual error in fahrenheit 9/11. there is a difference between lies and facts you don't like.

cstoll · 09-12-2006

^ What's the reward?

I agree with Jenn on this. I think the docudrama is a good thing, especially since it will promote discussion and (hopefully) help people think more carefully about some of the absurd claims out there.

SketchImpressions · 09-12-2006

I dont think its right to capitolize on this, for ethir side of teh fence.

neomp5 · 09-12-2006

Quote:

Originally Said by cstoll

^ What's the reward?

ten thousand.

Quote:

Originally Said by cstoll

I agree with Jenn on this. I think the docudrama is a good thing, especially since it will promote discussion and (hopefully) help people think more carefully about some of the absurd claims out there.

many people will simply assume that it's factual and not look into the matter.

Jenn and tonic · 09-12-2006

Neomp, the hypocrisy of your statements make me laugh. You assume every word of farenheit 9/11 is true, so you're technically one of those viewers.

09-08-2006	#1
neomp5 Dipshit for life! Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 41 Posts: 2,379 Rep Power: 43	petition i can't sign this because i'm not american. Dear MoveOn member, In a little over 48 hours, ABC will air a five-hour "docudrama" on the 9/11 attacks. The movie was written and produced by a right-wing activist who fabricated key scenes to blame Democrats and defend Republicans.1 It's so partisan that even Rush Limbaugh was surprised ABC decided to air it.2 And an FBI agent who was brought in to consult on the docudrama quit because, he said, "they were making things up."3 Public outrage is mounting across the country, and Variety reports that ABC is now "mulling the idea of yanking the mini altogether."4 But we only have a little time to act. We'll start delivering this petition to ABC headquarters tomorrow at noon and continue as more signatures come in. So we're looking for 200,000 signatures TODAY. Can you sign? Click here: http://pol.moveon.org/abcdoc?id=8721...196elaWmSA&t=4 Then please pass on this message to folks you know who can help. The Path to 9/11 appears to be part of a coordinated push—including speeches by President Bush and millions of dollars in advertising—to exploit the five-year anniversary of 9/11 for political gain. That's not acceptable from anyone—especially not a news organization like ABC. It's not just that ABC's movie is slanted. Big parts of it are simply untrue. The producer himself even admitted to simply improvising a key scene which depicts the Clinton administration letting bin Laden go when they had him in their sights—a complete fabrication.5 Last night, the movie's star, Harvey Keitel, said "It turned out not all the facts were correct."6 It's really pretty simple: ABC shouldn't have any role in the political exploitation of 9/11. But this docudrama is designed to do just that—spreading a false message to millions of viewers across the country. Sign the petition to tell ABC not to air partisan propaganda on 9/11. Click here: http://pol.moveon.org/abcdoc?id=8721...196elaWmSA&t=5 Thank you for all you do. –Nita, Eli, Carrie, Joan, Jennifer and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team Friday, September 8th, 2006 P.S. For the most current information on the scandal involving this film, and for more information on the movie itself, please visit our friends at ThinkProgress: http://www.thinkprogress.org Sources: 1. "Writer of ABC's 9/11 'Docudrama' Is Avowed Conservative Activist," ThinkProgress, September 1, 2006 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2047&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=6 2. "Clintonoids Prepare To Attack 9/11 Movie," The Rush Limbaugh Show, August 30, 2006 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2049&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=7 3. "FBI Agent Who Consulted On Path to 9/11 Quit," ThinkProgress, September 7, 2006 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/fbi-agent-quit/ 4. "Under fire, ABC mulls yanking mini," Variety, September 7, 2006 http://www.variety.com/VR1117949675.html 5. Greg Mitchell, Editor & Publisher, MSNBC appearance, September 7, 2006 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2077&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=8 6. "Harvey Keitel speaks out on Path to 9/11: 'It turned out not all the facts were correct'", Showbiz Tonight, September 7, 2006 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2078&id=87...196elaWmSA&t=9 Support our member-driven organization: MoveOn.org Political Action is entirely funded by our 3.3 million members. We have no corporate contributors, no foundation grants, no money from unions. Our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. If you'd like to support our work, you can give now at: http://political.moveon.org/donate/e...96elaWmSA&t=10 PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://pol.moveon.org/ Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. __________________ "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance." -Socrates "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson "A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind." -Robert Bolt "To teach how to live without certainty and yet without being paralysed by hesitation is perhaps the chief thing that philosophy, in our age, can do for those who study it." -Bertrand Russell

09-08-2006	#2
Higgins mudpuppet is colored Join Date: Oct 2003 Age: 31 Posts: 538 Rep Power: 42	Re: petition stupid

09-08-2006	#3
SketchImpressions AlmostSmart Goddess Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 2,153 Rep Power: 69	Re: petition i signed. __________________ "I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells." — Dr. Seuss What we have is socialism for the rich and trickle down economics for the rest of us. I am part of the 99% of Americans left outside of Economic Elite circles...

09-08-2006	#4
neomp5 Dipshit for life! Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 41 Posts: 2,379 Rep Power: 43	Re: petition welll, that makes up for me __________________ "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance." -Socrates "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson "A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind." -Robert Bolt "To teach how to live without certainty and yet without being paralysed by hesitation is perhaps the chief thing that philosophy, in our age, can do for those who study it." -Bertrand Russell

09-10-2006	#5
Blackass groingrabbingly good! Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 34 Posts: 2,458 Rep Power: 63	Re: petition It's worthless. Hell, I signed it just to prove how worthless it is.

09-10-2006	#6
Bamcubz WIFE - MOM - ME Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 60 Posts: 2,124 Rep Power: 54	Re: petition Written and produced by a right-wing activist....so you know its got to be true....come on you right-wing people here on AS....dont be a scared step up to the plate and put your name on this petition. __________________ At the beach, life passes differently. Time does not pass by the hours but by the moments and moods.

09-10-2006	#8
ablethevoice Vintage Human Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 63 Posts: 4,131 Rep Power: 90	Re: petition I signed too. __________________ "There Is No Religion Higher Than Truth." - Motto of the Theosophical Society "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits." —Albert Einstein “It's fortunate for governments that people don't think." - Adolph Hitler Sturkis akidit ("shit happens") - Latin Bent Ears Audio Laboratories - Better Music Through Chemistry MUSIC IS LIKE CANDY. IT'S ONLY GOOD WHEN YOU GET RID OF ALL THE RAPPERS. ))#####D~~~~ (_l_)

09-11-2006	#12
neomp5 Dipshit for life! Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 41 Posts: 2,379 Rep Power: 43	Re: petition lies presented as fact is an abuse of free speech, especially when presented to the general public through mass media. __________________ "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance." -Socrates "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson "A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind." -Robert Bolt "To teach how to live without certainty and yet without being paralysed by hesitation is perhaps the chief thing that philosophy, in our age, can do for those who study it." -Bertrand Russell

09-11-2006	#13
Jenn and tonic "maaaaagic!" Join Date: Jul 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 5,965 Rep Power: 125	Re: petition You could say the same thing about farenheit 9/11. Liberals LOVED that particular drama and saw and still see it as complete truth when it had a clear leftist slant...no one denied him the right to release his movie. Also, if you don't like it, turn it off, plain and simple. __________________ When all government, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the Center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated. – Thomas Jefferson

09-11-2006	#15
cloud nine Sha-wing! Join Date: Nov 2001 Age: 39 Posts: 1,142 Rep Power: 44	Re: petition jesus... your all starting to sound like fucking school children, arguging over who's turn it is to ride the damn tire-swing... and if it should spin left or right. i may not be a republican... OR a democrat... but i'm sick of both types of idiot... and the arguments on this site NEVER change... democrats are too whiney and give too much shit away... republicans 'power overwhelming' and money for richies... or whatever the heck these arugments really boil down to. Look, i just watched the show... FREE OF ANY BIAS... and i'll say it was a good flick, but ANYONE with half a brain in their skull knows that atleast half of it was pure speculation. Plus theres the situation of a certain DISCLAMER on the movie informing viewers that some parts have been 'fabricated' and other parts were 'overdramatized'... Regardless, the movie didn't sway me "more left... or more right" ...it just made me realize how little we've actually done (CORRECTLY) since then. At any rate, as far as getting into a poo flinging contest over who's dick is bigger (left or right wing) i could care less anymore. All this talk about politics is nothing but wasted pixels. you can't change the past... even if hindsight is 20/20 (i'm going to have to make a filter that removes 'politics, religion and kyle' from any/all posts i may want to look at, so i don't have to hear the same old crap) =-p __________________ "... Don't just call me pessimistic Try and read between the lines! I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend..." - TOOL - Aenima

09-12-2006	#17
cstoll ?! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,154 Rep Power: 82	Re: petition ^ What's the reward? I agree with Jenn on this. I think the docudrama is a good thing, especially since it will promote discussion and (hopefully) help people think more carefully about some of the absurd claims out there. __________________ "I have a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel." --Blackadder

09-12-2006	#18
SketchImpressions AlmostSmart Goddess Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 2,153 Rep Power: 69	Re: petition I dont think its right to capitolize on this, for ethir side of teh fence. __________________ "I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells." — Dr. Seuss What we have is socialism for the rich and trickle down economics for the rest of us. I am part of the 99% of Americans left outside of Economic Elite circles...

09-12-2006	#20
Jenn and tonic "maaaaagic!" Join Date: Jul 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 5,965 Rep Power: 125	Re: petition Neomp, the hypocrisy of your statements make me laugh. You assume every word of farenheit 9/11 is true, so you're technically one of those viewers. __________________ When all government, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the Center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated. – Thomas Jefferson

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