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Old 11-20-2007   #21
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And christianity stands out because there is a savior.
I guess my faith is kept strong because when i trust God, things always seem to work out, He always pulls me through. And when I keep God out of the picture, I fail. So mostly its personal experience.

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I will agree with you there. I know enough Christians, that by their actions would make most people rather not be associated with Christianity. They claim to be Christians, but act exactly opposite.
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And christianity stands out because there is a savior.
I guess my faith is kept strong because when i trust God, things always seem to work out, He always pulls me through. And when I keep God out of the picture, I fail. So mostly its personal experience.
your a nut. lol.
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Re: Religion

And sometimes i'm nut.
May that go down as the worst pun in history.
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I will agree with you there. I know enough Christians, that by their actions would make most people rather not be associated with Christianity.
I'm one of them.
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And sometimes i'm nut.
May that go down as the worst pun in history.
Haha, it made me laugh... Rep!

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I've at least glimpsed -- know the basic tenets and some details -- about other world views: Islam, Animism, Buddhism, the Post-Modern "mood," Jehovah's Witnesses, and some others. Christianity, to me, stands out from the lot in these respects:

* God-focused (centrality of God; who He is and what He's done takes absolute precedence.
This is much like the Shahadah, the first pillar of Islam, which states that there is no god but Allah.

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Accountability has its place, but it's not the prime focus) and not self-focused ("how can I make myself better/presentable and, therefore, gain God's favor/mercy/approval?" or “no supreme being(s) exists or relates to me at all” or some variation).
Another one of the pillars of Islam is that believers are to give alms to the poor. It's considered a Muslim's responsibility to help.


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Not so much Muslims, or at least, not that I've studied. Muslims on the board, feel free to correct me. From what I've seen, it's a combination of God's grace and works, i.e doing good things.
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Re: Religion

western religions are so boring
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Muslims on the board, feel free to correct me. From what I've seen, it's a combination of God's grace and works, i.e doing good things.
it is indeed.

i was actually going to reply to zanahoria's post about how christians can have salvation merely through faith in christ, and not through good deeds, and i have to admit that it bothers me a little - partly because i can't believe it to be entirely true.

the idea that a murderer, or a rapist, or any other criminal, who accepts jesus as his saviour regardless of his deeds, can get to heaven, is something that i simply can't get my head around.

i'm not saying that that is the case (in fact, i'd be surprised to find out that it was), but that's the impression i got from zanahoria's post.

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also, jenn is spot on about the other things. islam, as far as i can see, is just an updated version of christianity. kind of like christianity vista or something.
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Re: Religion

It's something I wrestled with when I was a practicing Christian. Why could some serial killer get to heaven if he was just sorry for his actions and believed in Jesus as savior? Isn't there a point where saying sorry and having faith don't cut it?
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i would have thought so. islam requires good deeds, and genuine repentance for sins - and by genuine i mean not just 'i'm really really sorry' and convincing those around you, but meaning it in your heart: a repentance only god can see for its truth.

you know when you've done something wrong if you're really sorry for it - but from the way it was worded earlier, 'being genuinely sorry' and 'having faith in christ' don't seem to me to necessarily go automatically hand in hand.
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Re: Religion

Catholicism requires good deeds, for the record.

Also for the record, I hate Islam as much as I hate Christianity and Judaism. That is to say, a lot. But I hate the religion not the religious.
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Re: Religion

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does anyone believe in mediums?
i believe in the *idea* of mediums. in the *possibility* of mediums.

but in what sense are you using the word medium?


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I believe that people can talk to spirits. But after death a human's spirit goes to either heaven or hell. But demons and angels are spirits that can go from heaven (angels) or hell (demons) to earth. So i guess someone could ask a demon to talk to Hitler or something like that. But i don't think a living person could directly communicate with the dead. So i guess the demon or angel would be the medium. Thats my opinion anyway.
i'm fairly well-versed in that area of the occult, actually.

it depends on the sort of ritual you are using to communicate with the daemons. as far as i'm concerned this sort of study is seperate from the christian religion and there is no reason to believe that there are two polarized types of these beings. it's very human to humanize creatures that we do not understand; but why would anyone think that a sentient being living in a state of being higher than our own would be bound by things such as good and as evil. wouldn't, chad, an angel transcend such feeble mortal constructs?

anyway, some rituals claim to allow one to speak to such a daemon. in this scenario the daemon could be considered a medium, if we use the term loosely. these rituals make use of both a magic circle and what they call the triangle of art. less people are aware of the triangle, everybody associates majick ritual with the circle.



if you were to summon the spirit, or daemon, into the circle that you, the magus, inhabit, the spirit or daemon would enter you. the triangle of art is used to direct the spirit into a confined space that you do *not* inhabit, for security reasons.

if you were to summon the creature without the circle, *you* would become the medium with which the spirit or daemon communicates with our world.

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the torah, the bible, the qur'an etc - they're all the same book (almost) with another story tagged onto the end (that's a viciously basic way of putting it, but it stands).
the major differences between the three major judeo-christian religions are as follows:

1. the jewish people are still waiting for their prophet.
2. the christian people believe that prophet was jesus.
3. the muslim people believe that prophet was mohammed, and that while jesus was a prophet, and was cool, he was not the son of god, and he was not as cool as mohammed.

you'll notice i didn't include mormons in the three major judeo-christian religions.
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To Christians, Jesus was the son of God which is more than a 'prophet.'
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Re: Religion

the christians believe he is the prophet that the jewish people were promised. that's all i'm saying.

what, did i not use a noun fit for your savior?

i don't care. he's not my savior. it's not my responsibility to flower up his descriptions.
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what, did i not use a noun fit for your savior?

i don't care. he's not my savior. it's not my responsibility to flower up his descriptions.
Don't be such a hot head.
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the christians believe he is the prophet that the jewish people were promised. that's all i'm saying.

what, did i not use a noun fit for your savior?

i don't care. he's not my savior. it's not my responsibility to flower up his descriptions.
Stop making assumptions about other people. I don't think Jenn is religious.
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a medium: something or someone that can transcend the barrier of life and death through either direct or indirect means. basically im asking are you more of a mysticism/spirtualism or skeptic?
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the christians believe he is the prophet that the jewish people were promised. that's all i'm saying.

what, did i not use a noun fit for your savior?

i don't care. he's not my savior. it's not my responsibility to flower up his descriptions.
No. You just want to sound smart, so you may as well know what you're talking about when you do.
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Re: Religion

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a medium: something or someone that can transcend the barrier of life and death through either direct or indirect means. basically im asking are you more of a mysticism/spirtualism or skeptic?
Skepticism and Mysticism walk hand in hand, after all, to understand and become one with all that is, you must first acknowledge that all that is, likely isn't.

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No. You just want to sound smart, so you may as well know what you're talking about when you do.
Oh, well in that case, thanks for letting me know. Until you said something, I had no idea that christians thought jesus was the son of god. I mean I can't believe they didn't cover that back when I was in Catholic school, I guess they sort of just glazed over it. How did you find out this information? Do you have any sources that you can link me to so that I can further investigate this? Because it is truly news to me.

Jesus?

The son of the christian god?

Really?
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You said 'prophet.' A prophet is different from the son of God.

So, first you didn't care whether you got it right or not, now you're bitching at me because you knew that in the first place. Make up your mind.

I'm just trying to help you sound knowledgeable here, but now that you clearly don't want help, I'll stop.
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