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Old 12-17-2010   #1
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Possible cure for HIV found?

Did scientists found a possible cure for HIV?

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Published: 16 Dec 10 08:00 CET

An American man is still HIV-free more than three years after receiving a stem cell transplant, suggesting the first-ever cure of the virus that causes AIDS, German doctors said this week.

Though the highly risky technique used on the man known as the "Berlin Patient" would not work for most of the 33 million people with HIV worldwide, scientists say the research shows important progress toward a universal cure.

"Our results strongly suggest that cure of HIV has been achieved in this patient," said the study released Wednesday in the peer-reviewed journal Blood, a publication of the American Society of Hematology.

The process began in 2006 when a US man in his 40s, who had been HIV positive for more than a decade, sought treatment for acute myeloid leukaemia, a lethal blood cancer.

After a first round of chemotherapy failed, his German doctor, Gero Hütter, thought he would see if he could perform a bone marrow transplant using a donor with a rare genetic mutation that is naturally resistant to HIV.

bout one in 100 Caucasian people, or one percent of the population, have the mutation, known as Delta 32, inherited from both parents which prevents the protein CCR5 from appearing on the cell surface.

Since HIV enters the cell through CCR5 molecules, when they are absent HIV cannot penetrate.

The process was not easy, but after rejecting dozens of potential donors Hütter finally found a match and performed the bone marrow transplant using stem cells from the HIV-resistant donor in February 2007.

Hütter's first study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2009, showed no sign that HIV had re-emerged even though the patient had ceased anti-retroviral therapy to suppress HIV.

The latest findings show that the patient, 44-year-old Timothy Ray Brown, continues to show no trace of either the AIDS-causing virus or leukaemia.

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Good news but there is also another side of the shield:
"[..] because Brown's ordeal left the patient temporarily unable to walk or talk and statistics showing around 30 percent of patients do not survive bone marrow transplants, AIDS experts sounded a note of caution."
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

Interesting story there. Grounds for cautious optimism.
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

Cautious optimism, indeed. Very interesting news.
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

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Interesting story there. Grounds for cautious optimism.
"Cautious optimism" hits the nail on the head here.
The elite few that run the globe are all about depopulation, so just like the cures for cancer are shelved and hidden somewhere in the Rockefeller Institute, this will probably be shelved too.
I'm pretty convinced that HIV was a manufactured man-made virus anyways.
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

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"Cautious optimism" hits the nail on the head here.
This is the only line you said I don't have any beef with.

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The elite few that run the globe are all about depopulation,
You and I need to talk.

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so just like the cures for cancer are shelved and hidden somewhere in the Rockefeller Institute, this will propbably be shelved too.
You and I really need to talk.

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I'm pretty convinced that HIV was a manufactured man-made virus anyways.
If you're already pretty convinced of that, then is there any point of me arguing against your belief?

I was going to start... but I got sidetracked and now I'll wait anyway to find out if you would really care about what I'd have to say.

That's assuming I come back to this forum any time soon. :P
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

Yes, I'm convinced. Regardless, don't let that stop you...
write what you want to say. :)
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

Some more news:

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New HIV treatment found
Published: 23 Dec 10 16:26 CET

German scientists have discovered a new way to treat HIV-AIDS by stopping the virus attaching itself to a human cell, which reduces side effects and the chance of viral resistance.


Researchers at Hannover Medical School and Ulm University have demonstrated that a peptide – similar to a protein but shorter – called VIR-576 stops the human immunodeficiency virus “docking” with a human cell.

“It is a completely new, effective therapy approach, from which we expect fewer side-effects,” said Professor Reinhold Schmidt from the Hannover Medical School.

Schmidt and his colleagues tested VIR-576 on 18 HIV-infected patients, in the first clinical study of the peptide. Their results were published the latest issue of the journal Science Translational Medicine.

The principle they have discovers also offers hope in the battles against viruses such as measles, hepatitis and Ebola.

A virus works by docking with a cell, hijacking its internal machinery and using it to make copies of itself. Usually, though not always, this makes the host sick, as is the case with HIV, which causes AIDS.

Medications already exist that block the attachment of HIV to human cells but these work either on or inside the cell.

“Because our peptide works directly on the virus rather than on the cell, certain side effects do not occur,” Schmidt said.

Furthermore, the emergence of viral resistance was less likely than with existing medications because the peptide binds to a part of the virus that never changes.

Highly effective drugs have existed since the mid-1990s that prevent the HIV virus from multiplying. As a result, people infected with HIV in wealthy countries such as Germany have an almost normal life-expectancy, although serious complications can arise, such as strokes and liver damage.

At present the new therapy must be given by transfusion, making it impractical as a treatment for wide use.

“Our goal is to develop a molecule that can be given as a tablet,” Schmidt said.

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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

There's another cure to HIV too...

It called, don't do drugs and don't engage in butt sex
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

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There's another cure to HIV too...

It called, don't do drugs and don't engage in butt sex

That's not a cure, that's 'just' a way of (hopefully) not getting HIV, though you can get it at a lot of other ways, too..
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That's not a cure, that's 'just' a way of (hopefully) not getting HIV, though you can get it at a lot of other ways, too..
Yes! Like eating monkey brains!
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That's not a cure, that's 'just' a way of (hopefully) not getting HIV, though you can get it at a lot of other ways, too..
Every other possible way HIV can be transferred from one person to the next I bet can be traced back to either drug use or unsafe sex practices.
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

...Wait. That's Ebola, isn't it?

*Sigh*

(Sorry--I didn't mean to make light of the disease. And sorry for trolling. Please forgive my flippancy.)

Curing HIV - a pragmatic and altruistic and good thing.

But it does seem one, huge and virulent, symptom of a deeper, much deeper, problem. There is something...terribly wrong with humanity, isn't there?
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

having butt sex does not equal aids. you were correct when you said "unsafe sex practices". but for the record i know a few gay guys that have butt sex and they dont have HIV.

you can get HIV from breast milk or having a blood transfusion as well, though getting it from a transfusion is highly unlikely in a place that has decent medical practices and laws. If butt sex and drugs were outlawed tomorrow HIV would still be around. As Christian said it is not a cure but a precaution.

What if HIV was not man made but some sort of zoonosis? Then i guess we would have to blame the animal kingdom for the transferal.
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HIV/AIDs is NOT created by butt sex, but it sure it is the act that is most likely to proliferate its spread.
If a woman transfers aids through her breast milk, then ask yourself, how did she get aids. You can bet your ass it was either from drug use or unsafe sex practices. Again, HIV/Aids will always be around because it exists now, but sodomy is the act of which it is most likely to spread.

Like how Big Parma makes it's money. They corroberate with the psychiatrict and medical field as they create the next disease or disorder, then promote the actions that spread it, so they can sell their products. Products that are meant to treat the disease/disorder not provide a cure.
The goal is to keep us from being as healthy as we can be, but keep us alive enough so they can keep selling us all their pills and treatments. The same applies to the promotion of unnatural and unhealthy sexual behaviors. This is all about money at the expense of the people's health and overall well-being.

I find it disconcerting and ironic that the same people who think the idea of HIV being man-made as ridiculous are often the same people who are more apt to believe in the whole green monkey silliness.

The Center for Disease Control's clearly documented facts show that (1) homosexual conduct is the highest risk conduct for HIV transmission; (2) that the homosexual population has the highest per capita infection rates of any demographic; (3) Homosexual blood donations are banned for life and that status was reaffirmed in June 2010 making battlefield medicine problematic at best.

Also, disconcerting that supposedly the general consensus to teach children as early as possible about "tolerance," "safe-sex," and anti-bullying is to make them read and discuss books in class like these (without the consent of a parent)...

(Especially take note of page 14)

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To the following article, I would like to add -- the reason homosexuals are much more prone to a myriad of infections and an early death is because the lining of the rectum was made by GOD for one purpose only -- to rid the body of waste.

The lining of the vagina is tough, like the skin on our hands, so it can withstand the trauma of intercourse and child bearing, but the lining of the anus is too delicate to withstand any trauma.

Anal intercourse, penile or otherwise, traumatizes the soft tissues of the rectal lining.  As a consequence, no matter how it's done, the lining of the rectum is almost always traumatized to some degree by any act of anal intercourse.  Even in the absence of major trauma, minor or microscopic tears in the rectal lining allow for immediate contamination and the entry of germs into the bloodstream."

Furthermore, comparable tears in the vagina are not only less frequent because of the relative toughness of the vaginal lining, but the environment of the vagina is vastly cleaner than that of the rectum.  Indeed, we are designed with a nearly impenetrable barrier between the bloodstream and the extraordinarily toxic and infectious contents of the bowel.

Anal intercourse creates a breach in this barrier for the receptive partner, whether or not the insertive partner is wearing a condom."

In addition to the trauma of intercourse, semen can eat away at the intestinal lining.
This allows a person to "infect themselves" as the bacteria from their feces enter the blood stream.

As a result of this, a man is 2,700 times more likely to get an HIV infection from anal intercourse than he is from vaginal intercourse.
Anal intercourse is so dangerous, the United Kingdom Blood Transfusion Service will not accept blood from any man who has ever had sex with another man, even if they were practicing 'safe sex' with a condom.

Regarding safe sex, even condom manufacturers advise against anal intercourse. The condom company, Durex, said in October 2000 :
"Anal intercourse is a high-risk activity because of the potential for infection from STDs including HIV transmission. Currently, there are no specific standards for the manufacture of condoms for anal sex. Current medical advice is therefore to avoid anal sex.

Ah, but our schools say it's normal.

One study calculated that 32% of condoms broke and 21% slipped during anal intercourse.
The researchers pointed out that "condoms manufactured in the United States generally are labeled "for vaginal use only."

Would you believe that our Supreme Court struck down Texas' anti-sodomy law?

In the majority opinion, Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote that the sodomy law "demeans the lives of homosexual persons" and that homosexuals "are entitled to respect for their private lives."

"The state cannot demean their existence or control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime," Kennedy said.

This majority opinion makes no sense at all.  Of course the state constantly interferes with people's privacy.  Has Justice Kennedy ever heard of incest, pedophilia, and bestiality?  Or, how about calling a prostitute to come to your house? Are we now to assume that these can be done in private? 

And how does it demean their lives?  Who would have ever thought that trying to save lives would be considered a demeaning act? 
The only thing  demeaning is the act, itself.

And also come to find out that the so-called ground-breaking case that legalized sodomy was based on fraudulent science...

http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archi..._decision.html

The Center for Disease Control warns that men who have sex with men can result in rapid, extensive transmission of sexually transmitted diseases."

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4835a1.htm

The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association confirmed these statistics in an article published by the homosexual advocacy website 'gaywired' in July 2002.

http://www.gaywired.com/storydetail....on=76&ID=10732

Medical studies and other evidence indicate that individuals who engage in homosexual behavior experience dramatically higher risks of domestic violence, mental illness, substance abuse, life-threatening disease, multiple sex partners, and premature death by up to 20 years.

College-aged men who engage in homosexual behavior are at risk of dying up to 20 years younger than other men, according to Oxford University's International Journal of Epidemiology, which reported: "Life expectancy at age 20 years for homosexual and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men -- nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday."

http://ije.oupjournals.org/cgi/conte...oshow=&HITS=10

"The probability of violence occurring in a homosexual couple is mathematically double the probability of that in a heterosexual couple," write the editors of the National Gay & Lesbian Domestic Violence Network newsletter.

The Journal of the American Medical Association reports that "people with same-sex sexual behavior are at greater risk for psychiatric disorders" - including bipolar, obsessive-compulsive, and anxiety disorders, major depression, and substance abuse.

http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/58/1/85

The Medical Institute of Sexual Health reports: "Homosexual men are at significantly increased risk of HIV/AIDS, hepatitis, anal cancer, gonorrhea and gastrointestinal infections as a result of their sexual practices.

Women who have sex with women are at significantly increased risk of higher rates and spread of bacterial vaginosis, breast cancer, and ovarian cancer than are heterosexual women." (Executive Summary, "Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality,"  1999)

http://www.medinstitute.org

The Institute reports that "significantly higher percentages of homosexual men and women abuse drugs, alcohol, and tobacco than do heterosexuals" regardless of so-called oppression or social stigma.

A Detroit homosexual newsmagazine columnist wrote regarding his partner:  "This is his first relationship, so he has not yet been ruined by all the heartache, lies, deceit, and game-playing that are the hallmark of homosexual relationships...

Homosexuality are the breeding ground for unstable temperaments and fleeting behaviors.
Most homosexual suicides are a results of their 'relationships' and how they treat each other rather than the so-called claims of victimization of an oppressed society.

Nine out of 10 gay men cheat on each other. Many 'long-term' homosexual relationships allow for straying or sharing partners with others.

It is apparent that the six justices who voted to overturn the Texas law on sodomy were absolutely clueless, regarding the health risks.
How is it possible that anyone with a modicum of intelligence would willfully be a party to the proliferation of deadly bacteria and viruses?

Our founding fathers must be turning over in their graves. Nowhere in the Constitution is there even a suggestion that sodomy, or other unnatural and dangerous sex acts, or freedom to engage in them in private should be allowed.

On the contrary, these six justices made a mockery of the Constitution: You have to look no further than the Preamble:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Not only does this Court not promote the general welfare of our country.  But they are party to its destruction. 
I guarantee that, because of this decision, homosexuals will have a freer hand in public schools in their indoctrination efforts. 
[Kevin Jennings (homosexual activist now appointed "Safe School" Czar) receives about $410 million a year in government funding, of which comes from our tax dollars of course]

The above has come to pass.

After all - the Supreme Court gave its blessing, so it must be normal.  (sarcasm)

END RESULT: MORE SUFFERING AND DEATHS. THIS IS IRREFUTABLE.

As long as they are hell bent about discussing homosexuality in our schools, then why not give all the facts and let the students decide if they want to live a life of pain and suffering and an early death, or live a normal life.

How stupid of me -- I thought the sole purpose of schools was to EDUCATE -- not INDOCTRINATE.

(Benjamin Franklin is in the history books for his discovery of electricit, not because of his sexual behaviors)

From time to time, I like to send out an e-mail which was sent to me from one of my friends, a paramedic. 
Now, would be another one of those ideal times...

Dear Doctor,

Your article was a splendid read. As a former fireman and paramedic for the city of San Francisco, I would be more than happy to provide you with anecdotal information regarding the lifestyle of the homosexual men and women; people who clog the EMS system with their strange and disgusting acts of sexual gratification. These acts not only cause infectious disease rates to skyrocket, but they are the source of traumatic injuries to the genital-urinary and lower intestinal tract. Some of these injuries are so severe, they often cause death to the individuals involved.

I was called to many residences and/or bath house for rectal bleeds.
These bleeds were many times the result of the infamous homosexual act of "fisting."
Many times we transported patients (in the Jackknife position) with such objects as zucchini, squash and cucumbers lodged in their rectums.

The San Francisco General Hospital has a surgical museum for surgical interns, nurses, other doctors and paramedics. The museum displays objects that have been surgically removed from homosexual men's intestinal tracts. Among these items are; light bulbs, bananas, rodents, batteries, Billy clubs, super-sized dildos, and a host of other objects that would make the stomach turn.

I had a younger brother (who was homosexual) who died from AIDS in 1986. No one can tell me that HIV hasn't affected me or my family.
My brother was a good kid. He was molested when he was very young by some bastard.

Cordially,
Tom
SFFD (RET)

I ask you, does homosexuality deserve being embraced, or taught in our schools as just another normal alternative lifestyle, or should it be drop-kicked back to hell where it came from?

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just a few things i wanted to throw in, not that you'll respond, and i'm sure if you do it will be a flood of links from conservative and anti-gay websites.

first of all i am pretty sure my vagina tissue isn't as tough as the skin on my hands and i couldn't find any sites besides your quoted e-mail to say so.
the reason it would likely result in less tears/damage is that it's lubricated. rough sex can cause trauma and damage. girls can even cause tissue damage from inserting tampons if they aren't having a heavy enough flow.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/a.../t-209670.html
women can experience serious tearing during child birth, unlike the e-mail you posted which said the vagina can "withstand the trauma of intercourse and child bearing".

that guy is also against abortions, thinks gays have a mental illness that shouldn't have been removed from the dsm, and abortions lead to breast cancer.

http://www.nonprofitpages.com/mcfl/joseph.htm

It doesn't. That statement was based on outdated, unreliable research.
He's a joke.
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...35&topic=31406
oh and the depo shot leads to higher levels of STI's.
http://geocities.ws/fwagner4/A4e3a1b...nsChemicl.html


girls have anal sex too.
http://www.yourtango.com/00005225/a-...-anal-sex.html
probably anyone who has anal sex is less likely to use a condom. and condoms probably break more because your ass doesn't naturally get wet. the vagina does. condoms can break if the female isn't lubricated enough.
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The standard condom is not built to withstand the increased friction associated with anal sodomy. Even with intercourse the slippage and breakage rates approach 10%.
http://www.narth.com/docs/littleblackbook.html
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With anal intercourse more strain is placed on the condom. You can use stronger condoms (which are thicker) but standard condoms are just as effective as long as they are used correctly with plenty of lubricant. Condoms with a lubricant containing nonoxynol-9 should NOT be used for anal sex as nonoxynol-9 damages the lining of the rectum increasing the risk of HIV and STD transmission.
http://www.avert.org/condom.htm
e-mail also said there's an impenetrable blood-ass barrier. I've seen a show where a guy died of alcohol poisoning from having a beer enema (on 1,000 ways to die). also i've heard lots of people but X pills up their ass because it's a more intense high.
this place, where you got that e-mail, is the only place i saw that semen can eat away at your guts.
http://www.earstohear.net/Separation/sodomy.html

they spend 6 pages talking about condom use.

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Despite the continuing impact of HIV & AIDS there are signs that awareness is waning among young people. For example, research with British teenagers has shown decreasing awareness of HIV & AIDS.5 The same pattern of increasing prevalence and decreasing awareness exists for STIs as a whole and many young people, including young gay men, may underestimate how likely they are to be exposed to sexually transmitted diseases including HIV. There is also evidence that in some places, even where they are otherwise well-informed about HIV and STIs, young people do not believe that they are vulnerable to contracting them.6
In the UK the numbers of young people with chlamydia, gonorrhea and genital herpes has risen by more than 100% since the 1990s. 7
http://www.avert.org/young-gay-men.htm


schools don't typically teach about the dangers of unprotected sex among men, or safe sex practices for gay people.


almost everything you post is biased against gays.
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So by your logic, even if a video was discovered that showed a homosexual activist admitting that AIDs is predominately a homosexual disease, would only be valid if it was sold or shown by a homosexual or liberal organization? Also, You use women who have anal sex as example, even when my point is that the act of sodomy is primarily a homosexual male act that heterosexuals also shouldn't do. So when facts about the homosexual lifestyle are posted, you follow the the ideologically subverted liberal mantra that facts are baseless if they don't coincide or reaffirm how you feel. There could be a piece written where 100% of the sources are from pro-homosexual activists and journals, but if you find it was written by a conservative, then in your mind that makes it bias and/or not valid. I realize you are desperately trying to frame it that way. Maybe one day you'll realize that judging behaviors isn't equal judging someone's heart.
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Re: Possible cure for HIV found?

I think that the facts are that nearly 1/3 of people with HIV-1/AIDS live in Africa. So basically most of Africa is gay? And then those gays go off and have children with women and the children contract HIV-1/AIDS and die. You know many of those in Africa with HIV-1/AIDS are children. Until you have visited these places and walked a mile in their shoes, i do not think it prudent to claim to have a solution or reason for someone's illness or to comment so flippantly about it. I do not think this subject can be explained by conservative fanatic or liberal fanatic. However, I do think as a preventative it would be best to walk the path of Compassion, education and understanding on both a scientific level and human level. These are still people we are talking about.

Placing blame on people or "judging one's behavior" is not a solution to HIV, AIDS or anything else. "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Whether you judge a heart or a behavior, this does not lead to balance and happiness in one's self. it is not up to you to judge nor condemn.
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It's actually a highly effective weapon for depopulation in certain poverty-stricken-yet-resource-rich nations whilst only causing a climate of manageable health problems in wealthier nations with better sex education and access to contraceptives. The mixing of AIDS facts and fallacies has long been apparent to researchers who are convinced that HIV did not come from Mother Nature and “species jumping,” but was most likely introduced via contaminated vaccine experiments exclusively targeting the poverty stricken Africans that were reproducing at high rates with contaminated smallpox vaccines and the disordered and therefore "unfit" homosexual community with contaminated hepatitis vaccines. But nevermind all that, because green monkeys sounds so much more realistic.

So if I have a family member who is drinking him or herself to death, I shouldn't say anything to help encourage them to think about another healthier alternative way? I should just let them be and if they get cirrohsis of the liver and die from it, oh well, at least they were never judged for that behavior. If I'm a parent and my daughter wants to lose weight and starting doing it by means of puking up her food, I shouldn't judge her behavior, because that won't lead to balance or happiness in herself as her continued actions of bulimia puts her at higher risk for health problems.

I'm sorry, but not everything is relative, there ARE certain things and behaviors that are more "equal" than others, and there IS a such thing as right and wrong.

Homosexual, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)1 represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s. In 2006, MSM accounted for more than half (53%) of all new HIV infections in the United States...

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm

4 homosexual magazines, LA Gay and Lesbian Center published the following ad admitting that HIV is predominately a disease proliferated mostly by and within the homosexual community...

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/cgi...e=444&num=7806
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HIV and AIDS is NOT a homosexual issue only, that's rubbish, though it's a fact that a lot of homosexual people are infected is a result of unprotected intercourse and drug abuse (same needles); especially in the 80's. Back then there as little to nothing know about the new disease that was to that time names "gay cancer" by people who thought it would be a punishment against them coming from god (or so). I guess you can see that as a reason that people today still combine HIV/AIDS with homosexuality.

There is/was a high risk among homosexuals to get infected with it HIV simply because they had no need to use proper protection (condoms) as they can't get pregnant. That's why the disease had it that easy to spread.


Scientists found 2005 out that the source of HIV can be found in Africa. Some monkeys were infected by a SIV virus (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) and somehow transmitted it to humans in where the SIV virus muted to HIV. (published in the Science Magazine)

That you get HIV through anal intercourse (only) is a lie though there is a higher risk because injuries and bleedings are more likely to happen then in other ways.

HIV can be transmitted by blood, sperm, breast milk etc. etc. etc.. whenever boy fluids get in contact with each other or get in contact with blood and/or mucosae. That's not a "gay only" issue, it can (and does) happen to everyone.

Here is a list of possibilities of being infected with HIV through:

Way of infection / Risk per 10.000 contacts with infected sources
Bloods transfusion / 9000
Sharing a needle (drugs) / 67
Anal Intercourse (with ejaculation)/ 50
Cut into skin with a needle / 30
Vaginal intercourse (with ejaculation) / 10
Anal intercourse/ 6,5
Vaginal intercourse/ 5
Oral intercourse (with ejaculation) / 1
Oral intercourse / 0,5

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So by your logic, even if a video was discovered that showed a homosexual activist admitting that AIDs is predominately a homosexual disease, would only be valid if it was sold or shown by a homosexual or liberal organization?
uh, no. and you should know that's not what i meant and that wasn't my logic. but a man who says depo can lead to STIs and abortions lead to breast cancer isn't very credible in my book.

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Also, You use women who have anal sex as example, even when my point is that the act of sodomy is primarily a homosexual male act that heterosexuals also shouldn't do. So when facts about the homosexual lifestyle are posted, you follow the the ideologically subverted liberal mantra that facts are baseless if they don't coincide or reaffirm how you feel.
because i couldn't find sources? because these "facts", like I said, are outdated and were a result of flawed studies?

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There could be a piece written where 100% of the sources are from pro-homosexual activists and journals, but if you find it was written by a conservative, then in your mind that makes it bias and/or not valid.
I don't care where the source comes from, but if I can google the stats or statements and see that they're outdated, like i said, and more recent empirical studies show better evidence to support the statement or to the contrary, the latter studies would obviously be more convincing.[/quote]

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I realize you are desperately trying to frame it that way. Maybe one day you'll realize that judging behaviors isn't equal judging someone's heart.
I don't even understand what that's supposed to mean.
but like i said, if the guy you quoted will lie about other studies of behaviors that don't agree with his christian ideology, i hardly think what he says of gays will be anymore honest.
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