Almost Smart  

Go Back   Almost Smart > The Lounge > General

General If it doesn't belong anywhere else it goes here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-04-2006   #1
Madre
Double Plus Good Mod!
 
Madre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Aurora, CO
Age: 67
Posts: 3,403
Rep Power: 64
Madre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond repute
Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

My favorite part is the last sentence.

MIAMI, Florida (Reuters) -- The New Testament says that Jesus walked on water, but a Florida university professor believes there could be a less miraculous explanation -- he walked on a floating piece of ice.

Professor Doron Nof also theorized in the early 1990s that Moses's parting of the Red Sea had solid science behind it.

Nof, a professor of oceanography at Florida State University, said on Tuesday that his study found an unusual combination of water and atmospheric conditions in what is now northern Israel could have led to ice formation on the Sea of Galilee.

Nof used records of the Mediterranean Sea's surface temperatures and statistical models to examine the dynamics of the Sea of Galilee, which Israelis know now as Lake Kinneret.

The study found that a period of cooler temperatures in the area between 1,500 and 2,600 years ago could have included the decades in which Jesus lived.

A drop in temperature below freezing could have caused ice -- thick enough to support a human -- to form on the surface of the freshwater lake near the western shore, Nof said. It might have been nearly impossible for distant observers to see a piece of floating ice surrounded by water.

Nof said he offered his study -- published in the April edition of the Journal of Paleolimnology -- as a "possible explanation" for Jesus' walk on water.

"If you ask me if I believe someone walked on water, no, I don't," Nof said. "Maybe somebody walked on the ice, I don't know. I believe that something natural was there that explains it."

"We leave to others the question of whether or not our research explains the biblical account."

When he offered his theory 14 years ago that wind and sea conditions could explain the parting of the Red Sea, Nof said he received some hate mail, even though he noted that the idea could support the biblical description of the event.

And as his theory of Jesus' walk on ice began to circulate, he had more hate mail in his e-mail inbox.

"They asked me if I'm going to try next to explain the resurrection," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science....science.reut/
__________________
III.IIVIVIXIIVIVIIIVVIIIIXVIIIXIIIIIIIIVIIIIVVIIIV IIVIIIIIIVIII - Solomon (I Kings 7:23)
Madre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2006   #2
ablethevoice
Vintage Human
 
ablethevoice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gulf Coast Florida Ivan and Dennis survivor!
Age: 62
Posts: 4,131
Rep Power: 89
ablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond reputeablethevoice has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to ablethevoice Send a message via Yahoo to ablethevoice
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

I posted this one already

"SCIENCE VS SCRIPTURE"
__________________
"There Is No Religion Higher Than Truth." - Motto of the Theosophical Society

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits." —Albert Einstein

“It's fortunate for governments that people don't think." - Adolph Hitler

Sturkis akidit ("shit happens") - Latin


Bent Ears Audio Laboratories - Better Music Through Chemistry

MUSIC IS LIKE CANDY. IT'S ONLY GOOD WHEN YOU GET RID OF ALL THE RAPPERS.
))#####D~~~~ (_l_)
ablethevoice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2006   #3
Madre
Double Plus Good Mod!
 
Madre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Aurora, CO
Age: 67
Posts: 3,403
Rep Power: 64
Madre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

ooh, sorry!
__________________
III.IIVIVIXIIVIVIIIVVIIIIXVIIIXIIIIIIIIVIIIIVVIIIV IIVIIIIIIVIII - Solomon (I Kings 7:23)
Madre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006   #4
psychoDiablo
Thx for the memories
 
psychoDiablo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 15,971
Rep Power: 204
psychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond reputepsychoDiablo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to psychoDiablo Send a message via Yahoo to psychoDiablo
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

duhh madre..

haha
__________________
I wouldn't say I'm psycho only because I'm able to handle it.
Now learn patience

To chill is to be chillin.
Chillin is cooperating with your surroundings, unknowing'st of what everything is capable of; and all the while, as it happens and after, to accept without any thought of good or bad, but mainly, just enjoying rather deeply, the moment you had to sit and think. (Not thinking.)

|-Mr.MCR-|

Will you write
Will you love
Will you enjoy
Life when I am gone?
You will.
by Angelina

"I have lived life as horrible as it was, and as beautiful as it has become."
psychoDiablo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006   #5
Zanahoria_Picante
Orange you glad she's not a banana?
 
Zanahoria_Picante's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,952
Rep Power: 145
Zanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

Psh, ambiguous at best.

And I suppose yet another block of ice floated up for Peter to walk upon when he went out to meet Jesus on the water? Riiiiiiiigggghht. That's some pretty improbable (and rather offensively scented) cheese, I must say. Even if the temperatures were found to be lower than is characteristic of the area, they certainly were not suitable for the formation of ice.

Such attempts to derogate the miraculous nature of Jesus' works is, frankly, insulting and unless there is some blinkin' concrete evidence to support such claims they are best left unpublicized.
__________________
Zanahoria_Picante

..| |
.| | |
_____
\ love /-|
-\__/--|

"When I first read the dictionary, I thought it was a long poem about everything."
Steven Wright




;
Zanahoria_Picante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006   #6
Madre
Double Plus Good Mod!
 
Madre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Aurora, CO
Age: 67
Posts: 3,403
Rep Power: 64
Madre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

I agree with you, I just thought it was an interesting thought. Also, uhh, what is that saying? I don't make up the news, I only report it.

It's a pretty simplistic explanation. The first thing I thought was...it took them 2000 years to come up with this?
__________________
III.IIVIVIXIIVIVIIIVVIIIIXVIIIXIIIIIIIIVIIIIVVIIIV IIVIIIIIIVIII - Solomon (I Kings 7:23)
Madre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006   #7
Savage_Nature
I love my brother.
 
Savage_Nature's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Alberta {Canada}
Age: 32
Posts: 3,405
Rep Power: 60
Savage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond reputeSavage_Nature has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

We all know Jesus was really an alien.
__________________

Savage_Nature is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006   #8
Zanahoria_Picante
Orange you glad she's not a banana?
 
Zanahoria_Picante's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,952
Rep Power: 145
Zanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond reputeZanahoria_Picante has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

Quote:
Originally Said by Madre
I agree with you, I just thought it was an interesting thought. Also, uhh, what is that saying? I don't make up the news, I only report it.

It's a pretty simplistic explanation. The first thing I thought was...it took them 2000 years to come up with this?
It is ponder-able, but that's about the size of it. There ain't no validity to it, the way I see it. I wasn't attacking you in any fashion; I was only ranting about how absurd such a claim is and how much I want to--*Sighs*--Never mind.
__________________
Zanahoria_Picante

..| |
.| | |
_____
\ love /-|
-\__/--|

"When I first read the dictionary, I thought it was a long poem about everything."
Steven Wright




;
Zanahoria_Picante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2006   #9
Madre
Double Plus Good Mod!
 
Madre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Aurora, CO
Age: 67
Posts: 3,403
Rep Power: 64
Madre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond reputeMadre has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

Well, yeah, I mean, it's pretty improbable. After all, Jesus was able to balance himself perfectly on a piece of ice so small that nobody could see it from a short distance? And he could make it look as if he were actually walking instead?
__________________
III.IIVIVIXIIVIVIIIVVIIIIXVIIIXIIIIIIIIVIIIIVVIIIV IIVIIIIIIVIII - Solomon (I Kings 7:23)
Madre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #10
hai Jay
Time for breakfast!!!
 
hai Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 9,098
Rep Power: 110
hai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond reputehai Jay has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

*sigh*

it's best to realize it just never happened.
__________________
Dare to dream.
hai Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006   #11
Sytrohs87
goliath
 
Sytrohs87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 35
Posts: 3,496
Rep Power: 75
Sytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond reputeSytrohs87 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Sytrohs87 Send a message via MSN to Sytrohs87
Re: Study claims ice, not water, kept Jesus afloat

I don't believe in Jesus' miracles, and I still find that a very stretched explanation. Besides the fact that it would be incredibly hard to balance on a floating piece of ice, the account says he "walked" on water, meaning he stepped forward. If you even move on a block of ice you just took the time to balance on, you're going to fall right off. The man is just trying come up with anything he can to explain it, IMHO.

I tend to agree with manic. It's much better to just believe it didn't happen then try to come up with some highly-unlikely explanation.

*shrugs*
__________________
"I've defected."

-The Mars Volta

"I consider the positions of kings and rulers as that of dust motes. I observe treasures of gold and gems as so many bricks and pebbles. I look upon the finest silken robes as tattered rags. I see myriad worlds of the universe as small seeds of fruit, and the greatest lake in India as a drop of oil on my foot. I perceive the teachings of the world to be the illusion of magicians. I discern the highest conception of emancipation as a golden brocade in a dream, and view the holy path of the illuminated ones as flowers appearing in one's eyes. I see meditation as a pillar of a mountain, Nirvana as a nightmare of daytime. I look upon the judgment of right and wrong as the serpentine dance of a dragon, and the rise and fall of beliefs as but traces left by the four seasons."

-Siddhartha Gautama
Sytrohs87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Its Not Really Necessary, Is It? ablethevoice Back Page News 0 02-12-2006 04:48 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2000 - 2006, Almost Smart