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Old 04-16-2003   #1
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Paladium

Have you heard about the software in the new windows long horn professional, paladium? Supposinly microsoft and intel are joining to implement a paladium control in both the microsoft os, and a chip in the intel boards. Using this paladium can stop mp3 trade (people will only be able to play mp3s acouple of times).. And for all the pirates this will sucks because even if you can get through the paladium in the operating system the board will lock out your computer because of os tampering..Some haxors claim that the board can be modded.. To add to that some old programs will not work with paladium because to security issues....

What do you think of paladium?
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This is a huge huge huge issue right now. The privacy, censorship, and consumer rights disadvantages of this technology outweigh the benefits 10,000 to 1.

Here is some more information on Palladium.

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1. What are TCPA and Palladium?

TCPA stands for the Trusted Computing Platform Alliance, an initiative led by Intel. Their stated goal is `a new computing platform for the next century that will provide for improved trust in the PC platform.' Palladium is software that Microsoft says it plans to incorporate in future versions of Windows; it will build on the TCPA hardware, and will add some extra features. Palladium has recently been renamed NGSCB while TCPA has been renamed TCG; however I'll continue to refer to them here by their original names as they are still more widely used.

2. What does TCPA / Palladium do, in ordinary English?

It provides a computing platform on which you can't tamper with the applications, and where these applications can communicate securely with the vendor. The obvious application is digital rights management (DRM): Disney will be able to sell you DVDs that will decrypt and run on a Palladium platform, but which you won't be able to copy. The music industry will be able to sell you music downloads that you won't be able to swap. They will be able to sell you CDs that you'll only be able to play three times, or only on your birthday. All sorts of new marketing possibilities will open up.

TCPA / Palladium will also make it much harder for you to run unlicensed software. Pirate software can be detected and deleted remotely. It will also make it easier for people to rent software rather than buying it; and if you stop paying the rent, then not only does the software stop working but so may the files it created. For years, Bill Gates has dreamed of finding a way to make the Chinese pay for software: Palladium could be the answer to his prayer.

There are many other possibilities. Governments will be able to arrange things so that all Word documents created on civil servants' PCs are `born classified' and can't be leaked electronically to journalists. Auction sites might insist that you use trusted proxy software for bidding, so that you can't bid tactically at the auction. Cheating at computer games could be made more difficult.

There is a downside too. There will be remote censorship: the mechanisms designed to delete pirated music under remote control may be used to delete documents that a court (or a software company) has decided are offensive - this could be anything from pornography to writings that criticise political leaders. Software companies can also make it harder for you to switch to their competitors' products; for example, Word could encrypt all your documents using keys that only Microsoft products have access to; this would mean that you could only read them using Microsoft products, not with any competing word processor.
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whoa thats some heavy shit there...personally i dont think it will work properly because of laws which countries hold over privicy issues...bloody win xp actually bends these rules slightly....
...if this new system does pass it will only be a short time before sombody has hacked it....
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whoa thats some heavy shit there...personally i dont think it will work properly because of laws which countries hold over privicy issues
20. But hang on, isn't TCPA illegal under antitrust law?

...Intel sets up a consortium to share the development of the technology, has the founder members put some patents into the pot, publishes a standard, gets some momentum behind it, then licenses it to the industry on the condition that licensees in turn cross-license any interfering patents of their own, at zero cost, to all consortium members....The consortium approach has evolved into a highly effective way of skirting antitrust law. So far, the authories do not seem to have been worried about such consortia - so long as the standards are open and accessible to all companies. They may need to become slightly more sophisticated.

Of course, if Fritz Hollings manages to get his bill through Congress, then TCPA will become compulsory and the antitrust issue will fall away, at least in America. One may hope that European regulators will have more backbone.

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if this new system does pass it will only be a short time before sombody has hacked it....
15. Can't TCPA be broken?

The early versions will be vulnerable to anyone with the tools and patience to crack the hardware (e.g., get clear data on the bus between the CPU and the Fritz chip). However, from phase 2, the Fritz chip will disappear inside the main processor - let's call it the `Hexium' - and things will get a lot harder. Really serious, well funded opponents will still be able to crack it. However, it's likely to go on getting more difficult and expensive.
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ha that reminds me of xp....it was cracked 30 days before it was even released....company leak probably
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