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Old 08-17-2008   #1
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At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup

Apparently McCain called his wife a trollup and a c*nt at one point after she teased his thinning hair. Did this actually happen? How come this hasn't been brought to light? Are we to seriously consider this to be presidential behavior?

I picked it up from this list of 127 Republicans involved in explicit behavior.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...131/885/565586
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Re: At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup

I looked at the article--I mean, editorial-- and didn't see one source listed.

Unbiased source of this, please?
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Re: At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup

The author of Daily Kos is a former law student turned journalist. He likes to push limits too, but he's usually got a lot of people keeping him straight. Not sure, but sometimes it seems like he's not above putting something out deliberately it seems he should be more aware of, then waits to be called out on about. Who knows.

However, poor behavior does not discriminate. Journalists and politicians alike seem to enjoy pushing boundaries everyone else is supposed to stay within. Doesn't make it ok, but that's how it is because it costs too much in terms of money and bad careers moves to call these people out for their bad behavior. "They don't eat their own" is the rule of thumb until a stoolie is needed, or until someone does that can't be easily swept under a rug.
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I think it came from the book "The Real McCain," and there were apparently five witnesses--two reporters, three of McCain's staff.

I don't care if it's true. There are a lot of reasons why he shouldn't be president.

This isn't one of them.

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Seriously, why should this matter?
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^ What cstoll said. Not a valid point of contention.
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Re: At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup

I doubt its true, even with anger problems she would of had to do more than just that to get that reaction out of him, and the fact he would be dumb enough to do it in front of reporters, is hardly realistic he has enough political background to know better than that, even if he wanted to say it out loud.
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is a trollup the same as a troll? what the hell is a trollup? and yes, i doubt this story is true. do old men really use the word cunt?
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Re: At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup

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is a trollup the same as a troll? what the hell is a trollup?
A trollop could be a floozy, tramp, etc.

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Yup. So do women.
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haha ok then. :-P
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cunt is something a person says to another in hopes of receiving a black eye
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McCain used the word "cunt"? That's it! I'm voting for him!
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I'd call his wife a cunt too. I dont even know who she is.
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Then you guys can share the prize for arbitrary name calling :.) I'm sure there's a trophy sitting around somewhere waiting to be claimed. Probably that pink squishy dog toy
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Re: At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup

Believe me, I know McCain's policies and political behaviors and they stand as main reasons why he shouldn't be elected. But hopefully you hold US presidents to a certain standard of personal conduct...?
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Believe me, I know McCain's policies and political behaviors and they stand as main reasons why he shouldn't be elected. But hopefully you hold US presidents to a certain standard of personal conduct...?
Sure, but I don't put that much weight on it (and not just because I don't consider the source completely reliable). The personal conduct of many presidents has been really disappointing (to put it mildly). That doesn't mean that we should lower the standard, but I think it should provide some perspective.

And with the US political system, with the lack of multiple presidential options between two polarized parties, we're stuck with these two candidates. So, unless one of them has done something tremendously awful, most people are still going to vote their party.

If John Edwards had been the nominee, his affair would have been disappointing, but I still would've voted for him.

And this kind of stuff detracts from the serious and harder-to-discuss issues.

For instance, McCain wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He also claims to "support the troops," but has voted against numerous measures that would do just that.

His continuation of a politics based on fear? And his shift on torture? His attitude toward the rights of foreigners detained indefinitely as suspects? That is some scary shit, much more offensive than what he may or may not have called his wife.

So, yeah, that barely registers for me.
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Yes.
I want them to not be little politically-correct bitches. I want McCain to call his wife a cunt, because it let's me know he's just as human as I am.
I'm not voting for McCain though.
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I think McCain should plaster on the makeup like a trollop...
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I hope when Obama becomes Pres. that a white man doesn't assassinate him.
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I want them to not be little politically-correct bitches. I want McCain to call his wife a cunt, because it let's me know he's just as human as I am.
And it would let everyone else know that he's no more presidential than you are. Do you honestly think that's a smart way to look at it? Knowing that a man has no regrets for the consequences of his words, and identifying with that makes him electable?
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He's no more presidential than anyone on this forum.

LOL the consequences of his words. You must be one to get offended all the time right? I better not talk to you then. Plus, I don't see why people care that he calls his wife a cunt. Maybe she fucking is? As long as he doesn't call the whole of America cunts. I have no problem with whatever he or anyone says.

How is a man calling his own wife a cunt going to affect the rest of America in general? Why does that bother you? She's not your wife.
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