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Old 08-13-2007   #1
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Karl Rove's Out

I thought I would beat Madre to the punch and post this. And I'm posting it in the POLITICS fourm, that way I don't see something like 'The Criminal's Finally Gone' or something like that posted on the front page.

But in truth, I really, really, really don't care that Karl Rove's leaving the White House. Anyone else really care? No! Or at least, you shouldn't.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/...ign/index.html


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The president and Rove are expected to speak before boarding Marine One at the White House at 11:35 a.m. ET. Bush will head to his Crawford, Texas, ranch where he will remain for the rest of the week.
Rove, who has held a top position in the White House since Bush took office in January 2001, is to stand down on August 31.

"I just think it's time," Rove told the Wall Street Journal. "There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family."


He denied that his departure is designed to avoid congressional scrutiny as the Democrat-controlled Congress subpoenas White House staffers to testify in the case of several fired U.S. attorneys.
"I know they'll say that," Rove told the Wall Street Journal, "But I'm not going to stay or leave based on whether it pleases the mob."
Both Rove and Scott Jennings, who is a special assistant to the president and deputy political director, were subpoenaed by the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is investigating the fired attorneys case.
Rove did not testify as ordered by the subpoena earlier this month, which angered panel Chairman Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont. White House Counsel Fred Fielding informed the committee that Rove, "as an immediate adviser to the president," can't be ordered to testify and was told by the White House not to attend.


The author of Monday's newspaper piece, Paul Gigot, said Rove "knows he'll continue to be a target, even from afar," because of widespread belief that his influence extends into every aspect of White House decision making.
Bush nicknamed Rove "the architect" for creating the plan that won the White House in 2000 and 2004.


"I'm a myth. There's the Mark of Rove," he told Gigot. "I read about some of the things I'm supposed to have done, and I have to try not to laugh." Gigot writes that Rove believes "the real target is Mr. Bush, whom many Democrats have never accepted as a legitimate president and 'never will.'"
Rove told the newspaper that he would leave Washington to return to Texas and that he had first suggested the idea of leaving a year ago.
However a series of problems for the Bush administration, starting when the Democrats took control of Congress and then as immigration and the Iraq war topped the agenda, made the enormously powerful Rove stay on.


But one of Bush's most trusted advisers claimed his hand was forced when White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten announced that any senior staff working past Labor Day [September 3] would be expected to stay on until the end of Bush's term.


Rove, who was instrumental in all aspects of the executive conservative agenda, told the Wall Street Journal that he expected the president's approval ratings to rise and that conditions in Iraq would improve due to the work of the U.S. military.



Rove also took the opportunity to fire a parting shot at the Democrats, adding that he thought Hillary Clinton -- a "tough, tenacious, fatally flawed candidate" -- would win the 2008 presidential nomination.




Loved by conservatives but a hate figure for many Democrats, Rove said he expected his rival party to be divided over the wireless wiretapping issue while the Republicans should come out top in economic issues closer to the 2008 poll.
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Re: Karl Rove's Out

Ah yes, another member of the Bush administration taken out by the democratic witch hunt. The sad thing is that we'll never really know whether or not Karl Rove was a good guy because, thanks to the liberal-run parts of the media, all we hear is what the democrats have had to say about him. Looking over his "scandals," it seems like a whole lot of accusing and very little proving.

But I guess it is not terrible that he's leaving...one less person for the democrats to bitch about.
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hahahahahaha, the "liberal media"? You've got to be kidding me? That's Reaganesque 80's talk. There's been no liberal media since Rupert Murdoch started buying up most of the media outlets.

The rats are leaving the sinking ship! Look out! Look out! (Kind of reminds me of the good ole days in Nixon's waning presidency.)
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He's simply leaving to help Giuliani with *his* campaign.
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Re: Karl Rove's Out

I absolutely adore Karl Rove. He's one of my heroes, he is. After all, he's a college dropout with Machiavellian political strategy coupled with an Orwellian ideology. What ambition! If only I could be driven to perform such feats, I'd surely be well on my way to global domination.

Rove's just an idiot for being in the shadow of a dumbass. He could have conquered the polls himself what with his debasing trickery.

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EC, your post cracked me up. Remind me never, ever, ever to support you in your coup attempt.
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EC, your post cracked me up. Remind me never, ever, ever to support you in your coup attempt.
Why thank you.

And I'll remind you, when I come to kill you for you know too much. Muhuhuhuhuhahahahahahahaha!

And, as I've grown older and wiser, I realize the futility of my ambition for my global empire, hence I have given it up in pursuit of a more noble aspiration: namely, the writing of an epic novel in which a character (based off a certain young emperor of the Hellenistic age as well as yours truly) does manage to conquer the world "with a little help from [his] friends".

I'll be posting a chapter out of that novel on the board here once I've finalized it. The chapter is finished but in the draft stages. I need to refine it somewhat before publishing it.

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After Mr. Rove is done spending time with his family, I wonder what he'll do next?
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Why thank you.

And I'll remind you, when I come to kill you for you know too much. Muhuhuhuhuhahahahahahahaha!
At least I'll have died for a good cause, fought the good fight, and all that junk. I'll die with a copy of 1984 in my hand.

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And, as I've grown older and wiser, I realize the futility of my ambition for my global empire, hence I have given it up in pursuit of a more noble aspiration: namely, the writing of an epic novel in which a character (based off a certain young emperor of the Hellenistic age as well as yours truly) does manage to conquer the world "with a little help from [his] friends".

I'll be posting a chapter out of that novel on the board here once I've finalized it. The chapter is finished but in the draft stages. I need to refine it somewhat before publishing it.
Interesting, I look forward to reading that chapter.

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After Mr. Rove is done spending time with his family, I wonder what he'll do next?
My guess? Political consulting. Even if they deny it, absolutely everyone's a career politician in Washington.
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Ah yes, another member of the Bush administration taken out by the democratic witch hunt.
Dems go after people. Republicans go after ideas. People can be stopped. Ideas cannot. I have to say the Democrats are on the right page with this one.

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The sad thing is that we'll never really know whether or not Karl Rove was a good guy because, thanks to the liberal-run parts of the media, all we hear is what the democrats have had to say about him. Looking over his "scandals," it seems like a whole lot of accusing and very little proving.
Maybe the "liberal-run parts of the media" are the only ones to say anything because the conservative run parts of the media don't want to draw any attention to their fledgling party deity?


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hahahahahaha, the "liberal media"? You've got to be kidding me? That's Reaganesque 80's talk. There's been no liberal media since Rupert Murdoch started buying up most of the media outlets.
Hahahahaha.... you're kinda right though.

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Don't you *ever* refer to the 1970s as the good ole days! Nothing about that decade was good. I'm glad I was born after it because otherwise I may have been tainted by its terrible decadence!


Ehh, it's been going downhill ever since the 70s.
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And, as I've grown older and wiser, I realize the futility of my ambition for my global empire, hence I have given it up in pursuit of a more noble aspiration: namely, the writing of an epic novel in which a character (based off a certain young emperor of the Hellenistic age as well as yours truly) does manage to conquer the world "with a little help from [his] friends".
So... the main character is Ringo Starr?
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But I guess it is not terrible that he's leaving...one less person for the democrats to bitch about.
well we still have you.

LOOK A DEM, IN THE BUSHES! HE'S GOT A WELFARE MOMMY! AND A GAY MEXICAN! WATCH OUT, HE'S GOING BUILD A PLANNED PARENTHOOD!!



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Thems fightin wurdds
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So... the main character is Ringo Starr?
Ringo Starr doesn't have any friends. Duh.

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well we still have you.

LOOK A DEM, IN THE BUSHES! HE'S GOT A WELFARE MOMMY! AND A GAY MEXICAN! WATCH OUT, HE'S GOING BUILD A PLANNED PARENTHOOD!!
Funny Tyne. Funny.

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Thems fightin wurdds

Slap her.
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ROAH I AM UBERLIBERAL, FEEL MY FEMINIST VAGINA HAVING SEX BEFORE MARRAGE....IN CANADA! RARGH HEALTHCARE IMMA EAT ANN FOR BREAKFAST.

but in all serious, there's no liberal boogeyman. or boogeyperson if you really think were that uppity pc. we have gay mexican abortion healthcare rallies to attend, so we have better things to do.

i dont speak for all of them. hell, democrats are equally bad as republican'ts. vacant talking heads, the lot of them. I dont want attacks on each other, look what we've accomplished. JACK SHIT SON. Suck it up, take it like men and women, and CHANGE THIS SHIT. God. Grin and bear it, cause if all you do is bitch and gripe about party X or moral Z, you do absolutely nothing.
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I know. I only bitch about democrats here on AS because most members are dems and I get a good response.
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I know. I only bitch about democrats here on AS because most members are dems and I get a good response.
so your pulling a franken-coultier and getting attention as opposed to stating views legitimately?

i dont want to sound hypocritical, but that aint getting the point accross
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Nah. I don't do it all the time.
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Ooh... Tyne's got you now. She's out for the kill. She's all like listening to the Misfits and askin' her mommy if she can go out and kill tonight.
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Old 08-22-2007   #20
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Re: Karl Rove's Out

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so your pulling a franken-coultier and getting attention as opposed to stating views legitimately?

i dont want to sound hypocritical, but that aint getting the point accross

I don't think that's entirely accurate. :-/

Sadly, I think Ann Coulter actually *believes* all the things she says. :-/
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