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Old 07-04-2004   #1
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A serious post by me for once..

Right now this is quite a serious post by me so try keep up..

I wasn't sure whether to post this here as its a bit of a debate or in the guys an girls thread....due to the truth behind it...

Say you had a long distance relationship, an one night your girlfriend went to a party an something was slipped in her drink, an thus cause your not there she was then raped later on....

now take in account that she was raped an you forgive her as it wasn't her fault, an vow to kill the fucker who did that her....now say later one you both find out shes pregnant...an it was coz of that night...

what do you do?

do you get her to abort it, because it was a mistake an its not your child? an everytime you looked at it you would see that night where you were not there to stop things from happening the way they did..

or do you keep it an raise it as your own child? forgetting how it came to be...but raising as your own an hoping the truth never came to light...
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

god damn.

kill him. kill her. then kill urself.




dude, i dont know the hell to do. i dont know what i would do. i mean, both of you never asked for this.
wow this is actually something i never thought about it...and to be honest, it's pretty sick.


hmm, if i were the chick and that shit happened to me, i'd get rid of the child before anything. that child doesnt deserve to be here like that, and that fucking guy doesn't deserve to have a child. Nah, why hide the truth, just get it over and done with and out of the way.

course you'll never forget it. but an accidental baby...nah. fuck that.
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

Ok, first of all, from a girls point of view. I would definitely look at all the facts of either side of the desicion. There's abortion, which personally I don't agree with, but if they feel that there is a good reason behind doing this, then they should do it. If they feel that strongly about the fact that they would be haunted with the memory of that night and they weren't able to stop it, then that could be a reason not to do this. But the thing is, even if they abort it, they would only be stopping the product of that night, there is no way to stop the memory.

I'm not saying what i would do because I have no possible way of getting any real insight on this situation, but you read the above and figure out how that helps the situation.

Is this happening to a friend, or is it just a thought?
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god damn.

kill him. kill her. then kill urself.




dude, i dont know the hell to do. i dont know what i would do. i mean, both of you never asked for this.
wow this is actually something i never thought about it...and to be honest, it's pretty sick.


hmm, if i were the chick and that shit happened to me, i'd get rid of the child before anything. that child doesnt deserve to be here like that, and that fucking guy doesn't deserve to have a child. Nah, why hide the truth, just get it over and done with and out of the way.

course you'll never forget it. but an accidental baby...nah. fuck that.
alright but how about we add to the facor that your girlfriend already had an accidental child before with her previous boyfriend an had to givethe child up to an adopting family an regrets doing that...

would you stand by her if she chose to keep it?

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Is this happening to a friend, or is it just a thought?
a lil of both really...
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

Well, I don't know about this. Actually this same thing happened to me not too long ago (I ended up not being pregnant, thank God). For one, it is the girl's choice completely. Don't try and persuade her one way or another because either way it is a decision SHE will have to live with for the rest of the life. Even if she gets an abortion she will have that in her memory forever. If I was in her position I would get an abortion. I don't think it's right to bring up a child of rape but that is just my opinion.

The fact that she gave up a baby from a previous relationship and regrets it is tough to factor in. She might regret giving it up but that was a RELATIONSHIP. She needs to remember that this baby was not with a person whom she was with... this was rape. She might look at that child and remember that night everytime. There is no right or wrong decision here...

In my mind, I always imagine if I had a baby of rape how I would tell them who the father was when they questioned. Or if I gave it up for adoption that they will sooner or later question who the father and mother were...

It's a terrible situation any way you look at it... Best of luck
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

thanks for your words there..

I do know what you mean, would I look in the eyes of the child I raise an honestly not remember the how it became to be..

Its the hardest choice anyone has to face really...I still dont know what side I would go with.
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

i wouldn't abort. a child is a child, and i think the emotional pain of having it aborted would hurt more for me. i'd raise it for sure.
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

even if that child wasn't your own?
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

A little of both? This is actually happening? Oh *hugs* I know you aren't Posting this on here for sympathy but still. You could use a hug. And yeah. I have to agree with Rob, he definitely has a good point. Kudos to you Rob. And i think, yes, even if it wasn't a child of your own.

Just because you aren't a sperm donor doesn't mean that you don't love the child as your own and that you aren't capable of doing so.
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Yeah, i'd keep it even if it wasn't mine.

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Re: A serious post by me for once..

Yeah I guess I might as well come clean, this is happening right now...an yeah I would raise it as my own, an love it like my own....we're just not sure exactly whats gonna happen right now..
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

Just give it time Dean, that's the best thing that you could do. Let it sink in fully, and when it does, think about all the things that need to be done.

And irrational mind is the worst to think on.
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thanks for your support guys, I will see what happens....so who knows I could even be a father....wow scary thought
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

I haveto say this: "Oh geez. Lord help the kid." Just kidding. Sure you will do a great job. That'll be one awesome kid. Learn to paly guitar by four.
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hey are you intentionally making a crack at my spelling there?
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Darn that's supposed to be play. My bad
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

But yeah, we will have to see, who knows this time next year, what the future holds....if anything this has made me realise the love I have for my girlfriend, we went through a rough patch...but this has made me realise some things, an that no matter what is decided that I will love her..
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Wish there was more guys like you out there. Geez most of these Canadian guys are wankers.... I love that word...
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Re: A serious post by me for once..

Yeah well, Im not always the nice guy....I have really fucked thigns up along the way...an I have a feeling that im due for one last fuck up before im set free..
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I seriously doubt that. But who knows? you may have one more mess up, you may not? But whatever happens, lets hope this works out.
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