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Funk*Sonic*7
07-09-2007, 08:47 PM
I have one stipulation before the United States government even considers universal healthcare:

I challenge Michael Moore and the other 60-70% of America to be required to lose weight first.
As far as I'm concerned, the only people that deserve universal healthcare are the people who maintain good health, and stay within the range of their recommended BMI.
Any smoker or fat ass like Michael Moore has absolutely NO right to ask for universal healthcare, based on principle alone.
Until that sensationalistic one-sided pig sheds a good 100 pounds, he doesn't deserve it!

Just pisses me off that somebody that over-weight has the nerve to think he should be entitled to universal healthcare.
Just because of the fact that he is so obviously obese, is enough to show that he has no credibilty when it comes to issues of fitness and/or healthcare. Yeah, way to set a good example and not be a HIPOcrite Mr. Moore. :rolleyes:

I'd love to interview Michael Moore about his "hard-on" for universal healthcare.
The questions I would ask him first:

"Hey Lard ass, how many twinkies have you been eating lately?"
"Hey dough-boy, how come you can't stop sweating all the time?"

The primary solution should be based on a preventative maintenance qualification with the support of universal healthcare.
People as overweight or as obese as Michael Moore wouldn't qualify, because he obviously has taken very little responsibility for his own health.
If most Americans would get off their collective asses, exercise, eat right, and go for regular checkups, there would be a lot less ill people, therefore a lot less need for prescription drugs. When the 60-70% of Americans that are either overweight or obese drops to no more than 25%, then lets talk about universal healthcare.

Madre
07-09-2007, 10:45 PM
I think one of the things that bugs me about our health care system is how many people are on lots and lots of prescription drugs. I'm sure that many do need to be on those drugs, but I also think that it is possible that doctors sign people up for drugs they don't need in order to get more money from the pharmaceutical companies.

When I'm with elderly people, I've noticed a lot lately that many of them are on several prescription drugs daily. I wonder if they really need to be on that many. I'm sure that the fact that every time we open a magazine that has a several page supplement advertising some drug or every time we turn on the television we have to watch so many drug commercials has something to do with this. Is it possible people see the advertisements or commercials and then think, oh, that's what I have, and then run down to their doctor to get signed up? I think it's certainly possible.

As for Michael Moore, yeah, he's fat, but yeah, I also think we need some kind of universal or single-payer health care system. Why? Because we are the wealthiest nation in the world and yet more people go bankrupt in this country because of medical costs that they can't pay than any other reason. It's not right that we have money to wage a trillion dollar war but can't guarantee health care for children or the poor or uninsured.

Funk*Sonic*7
07-09-2007, 10:52 PM
I think one of the things that bugs me about our health care system is how many people are on lots and lots of prescription drugs. I'm sure that many do need to be on those drugs, but I also think that it is possible that doctors sign people up for drugs they don't need in order to get more money from the pharmaceutical companies.

When I'm with elderly people, I've noticed a lot lately that many of them are on several prescription drugs daily. I wonder if they really need to be on that many. I'm sure that the fact that every time we open a magazine that has a several page supplement advertising some drug or every time we turn on the television we have to watch so many drug commercials has something to do with this. Is it possible people see the advertisements or commercials and then think, oh, that's what I have, and then run down to their doctor to get signed up? I think it's certainly possible.

As for Michael Moore, yeah, he's fat, but yeah, I also think we need some kind of universal or single-payer health care system. Why? Because we are the wealthiest nation in the world and yet more people go bankrupt in this country because of medical costs that they can't pay than any other reason. It's not right that we have money to wage a trillion dollar war but can't guarantee health care for children or the poor or uninsured.


I agree with you, but as a person that is more than just overweight, Michael Moore has no place to address this issue.
His credibilty is "null and void" in my opinion, because he simply has not and does not take responsibilty for his own health.
It would be a totally different story for me if somebody like Lance Armstrong (just as an example) was pushing heavily in the media for universal healthcare. If you're going to argue for something like good healthcare of any kind, you better be the "poster boy" for it.

It has become socially acceptable and PC in the last 5 years or so to constantly heckle smokers for smoking, and it seems to have made a difference. Rightfully so.
We need to start doing that same kind of heckling towards the "fat people" who are stuffing their faces at McDonalds and Burger King.

You want to see a good documentary about health, go rent "Supersize Me," if you haven't already.
That's where the real core issues lie with regards to all the problems with our healthcare system.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" - John F. Kennedy