Psychosis (not me, the state of mind)

[Mr Stabby]

ahaha nice title :biggrin:

Anyways, I just made this thread to ask about certain conditions and shit, as I noticed theres more and more members of AS now who seem to have either chornic depression or are bipolar, and are taking pills left right and center to calm themselfs.

I wanna make this clear though, im not judging or attacking any member on here, keep that in mind...

Now, what I wanna know is how many of these problems can actually be sorted without the need for shrinks and drugs? and how many cases are just caused because someones had a bit of a rough time so they throw up this wall around themselves and then need shrinks and drugs because they have taken it too far, and what was once a wall to protect them, has now turned into something which cannot let them live their life properly because they shut everyone out and keep themselves so contained.

I only ask this because after nearly a year it seems I haev done exactly this myself, except I dont need shrinks or pills (well not anymore). As many know I went through a bad breakup with my ex way back, and that seems to be one of the causes for my spiral down. And well it seems to have just come to light that recently I wasn't suffering depression and always wanted sympathy (though I do like a lil attention haha) but it seems I was also decending into well, to say it bluntly I was going mad. And I dont mean the nice jokey kind, I mean the split personalites and well scary nature. I mean, sure Im mad, but in the nice loving way, the jokey way, the way I had gone was kind like thinking my life was 2 different things, I mean I'll give you an example...

at work the other week I actually thought up ways that I could die, now I know thats common with suicidal people, but is it common for them to look past the death and see the after part? you know, the friends crying, and the funeral and such. I mean I went so far as to see my old friend/old band mates actually throwing a tribute concert for me, and for some of the top players in this town to have recognised me, and even an article on yahoo news titled something like "City pays tribute to rock hero"....hell I even had a good reason for why I would of killed myself too, I had everything totally thought out in my head, that my reasons for suicide were that im actually a advanced ADD sufferer and I didnt wanna keep taking a cocktail of pills every day to stay alive......

all of that is not true, its all in my head...so yeah I think im one of the most fucked up members here haha......but it wasnt till yesterday I realised why and now, as soem have seen, the old non fucked up me is shining through again....

But anyways, this isnt about me, that was just an example, I just wanted to know, how many people believe that all these cases of split personalities and depression are caused by a chemical in balance in the brain like all the doctors say, or if its something that can easily be stopped with a simple wake up slap?

Oh and here to finish this off, I just wrote a lil song, and I think you'll agree its definately old me again....:biggrin:

Psychosis or I've lost My Mind Again

(verse)
I've lost my mind again,
and I don't know where I put it,
I think its down the back of the couch,
along with Jesus and Spiderman..

(chorus)
please help me find it,
this psychosis is killing me,
please help me find it,
before I take the poison and never stop..

(verse)
I think I lost it again,
somewhere on the bus between,
Unthank road, and the city center,
I think some kids may have taken it..

(chorus)
please help me find it,
this psychosis is killing me,
please help me find it,
before I take the poison and never stop..

(bridge - spoken)
I had it when I last checked doc,
ok ok son, just take these pills twice a day,
and come see me 3 times a week,
but what good with that do? will you help me find it?
yes of course I will, that's what Im paid to do
but I think Elvis stole it, how will pills help?
your ill son, its a in balance in your brain,
these pills fix that, don't worry,
but Elvis has it! pills wont kill him, a shotgun will!

*bang*

(chorus)
please help me find it,
this psychosis is killing me,
please help me find it,
before I take the poison and never stop..

:cool:

[Jenn and tonic]

at work the other week I actually thought up ways that I could die, now I know thats common with suicidal people, but is it common for them to look past the death and see the after part? you know, the friends crying, and the funeral and such. I mean I went so far as to see my old friend/old band mates actually throwing a tribute concert for me, and for some of the top players in this town to have recognised me, and even an article on yahoo news titled something like "City pays tribute to rock hero"....hell I even had a good reason for why I would of killed myself too, I had everything totally thought out in my head, that my reasons for suicide were that im actually a advanced ADD sufferer and I didnt wanna keep taking a cocktail of pills every day to stay alive......

No, that is not uncommon. In fact, I did that myself, but I was very highly suicidal/attempted suicide.

As for the other, whether psychosis is a chemical imbalance or something someone creates as a defense, I think it's sometimes a little of both.

As for pills, I took them for about three years. I don't know if they did any good or not, but I quit taking them because I began to hate how they dulled my emotion. That's just me though. There are many, many, many people who need pills in order to function normally.

And hey, pills are a lot better than how they used to treat the insane. Look it up sometime, they did some fucked up stuff to people that were probably just schizophrenic or bipolar.

[Mr Stabby]

oh yea, electro shock therapy and all sorts, but fuck, I would rather slap every person than tank them up with so much drugs all the time...

hell we got it bad here in town, they now not only have a defense through them being 'ill' but they even use their drugs as a defense now......like "I have to take so much of xxx a day or I'll go nuts on everyone".....ummm no you fucking dont!! shithead.....wake up, take some coffee and just relax....

I just hate twats, and unfortunately my hatred of them sometimes clouds the issues with the non twats, but my point still stands valid though, I reckon we don't need half this shit (pills, talk shows, shrinks) we just need people to start realising that their life isnt bad, its just hit a low, and its gonna get even fucking lower cos they do fuck all about it...

[Jenn and tonic]

Well, there's a difference between people who genuinely need the pills and people who take them and tell everyone about it.

I told very few people while I was on pills. I didn't share my issues with everyone around me because really, no one cares to hear stuff like that and I wouldn't have wanted that kind of attention anyway.

I have noticed that a lot of people talk freely about it (and exaggerate it quite a bit) and I don't understand why a person would want to attract attention like that.

[Mr Stabby]

but and heres a good question, why do you take them, what was the trigger of you needing to take them?

[Jenn and tonic]

suicidal tendencies and social anxiety disorder.

[Funk*Sonic*7]

I just saw on the news the other day that the newest study shows that 1/4 people have a mental illness or disorder.
As far as meds, I think (generally speaking) most people are over medicated. It's a billion dollar industry & if you watch TV, it seems that every other commercial is for a prescription drug. They have a drug for every little sympton now & the potential side effects of the drug seem to always outweigh the sympton itself. And I think taking these meds for some sort of mental disorder for lets saythe rest of your life, kind of defeats the purpose. The gray area is the existence of chemical imbalances in the brian, how prominent they are, & to what extent do we have control over them? Quantum physics says that we do have a great amount of control over them by simply doing things such as looking deep into the situation at hand, reflecting on the situation for as long as necessary, & then taking actions to change the situation.

I think everybody should watch one of the best movies ever made at least twice:

One Who Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest

It takes this issue to convey a real simple message that can be useful to all of us in everyday life & it's just a great movie.

[Mr Stabby]

suicidal tendencies and social anxiety disorder.
was there a trigger for all this? like some kind of loss or something...

[Jenn and tonic]

was there a trigger for all this? like some kind of loss or something...
None that anyone could figure out. My mother, aunt, an uncle, and my grandfather all have been treated for a mental disorder of some kind, so it was probably genetic.

The psychiatrist said that since they caught mine early I probably wouldn't have to take pills for long and she was right.

[Mr Stabby]

ok, so you seem to one of the only ones who do or did have a true medical condition...

so ok, maybe a slap in the face wouldnt of helped you, but to others though it would, I think I actually lost the meaning of what I was trying to say to start with....

so did you like my song? :laugh:

[psychoDiablo]

i've always said it, i've always figured it to be true...but it's all in your own head.

you think youre crazy...fine.
you think you need the pills...fine.
you think you need the drugs...fine.

it's just like any other drug out there. dont you notice they have pretty much a pill for everything? they will make a pill, just so you can buy em, and never feel the same again. if you stop buying them, no more money for them, and they tell you youre going to go insane. ha most people dont want that...

but yeah. Most people dont have total control over their brain, which causes them to think the ways they do about certain situations. My Abnormal Psychology teacher had told us, that this lady seen something terrifiying. and the way that her brain handled it, was by making her blind. Sure enough, through some couseling and talking about it, she relieved herself and she was able to see again. But it's the fact that it got so bad to her, that she didnt have any idea how to cope, so her brain made up a false move and she lost her sight..

so now we have a certain situation, a certain defense mechanism, and a certain thought from the individual. That thought lead her to believe she couldnt see anymore because of what happened, because she couldnt take it.


As before, It's all in your head.

And no Dean, we've all thought about shit like that. Hell I do it sometimes too, while driving....

[Mr Stabby]

And no Dean, we've all thought about shit like that. Hell I do it sometimes too, while driving....
im so glad im over here safe from you....haha....be like *VWUUUMMM* what the fuck was that?....ohhh just matt :biggrin:

[psychoDiablo]

haha. actually my sixth sense for driving goes off and brings me back to reality so that i dont crash. it gives me just enough time to know wher ethe danger is. kind of like spiderman...

[MudPuppet]

Oh man, done the ADD thing too. The pills make me sick.

I like the song. Haha. Rep.

[Mr Stabby]

Oh man, done the ADD thing too. The pills make me sick.

I like the song. Haha. Rep.
then stop taking the pills and sort your life out....

there was the kid back in middle school, he was way too hyperactive, he took pills and that calmed him for an hour or two a day....funny thing is, if he didnt take them he was a fucking nutcase....you know what I last heard? he stopped taking them once and for all cos they had side effects, he got better, much better...hes not hyperative no more...and ok I knew him nearly 7 years ago, but from what I heard, it took him like 6 months to get a grip of life and calm down, and now hes just as normal as you or me..

so ethan, try not taking the pills and actually sorting your problems out..

[Jenn and tonic]

Actually Dean, it's really rare, but ADHD/ADD are actual problems with the chemicals in the brain.

However, you are right in saying that you don't always need the pills. My brother has ADHD and took pills when he was a kid. He doesn't take them now, but on occasion when he starts to get random and whatnot, he has a bit of Dr. Pepper and he's fine. Caffeine calms him down--and when we talked to the doctors about that they said that sometimes caffeine can calm people down who have ADD/ADHD.

(oh, and I did like your song.)

[MudPuppet]

so ethan, try not taking the pills and actually sorting your problems out..The pills were in no way my idea. If it was up to me I'd have nothing to do with the damn things.

[Blood Red]

all of that is not true, its all in my head...so yeah I think im one of the most fucked up members here haha......but it wasnt till yesterday I realised why and now, as soem have seen, the old non fucked up me is shining through again....

like ive told matt before, we are endangered species bro, we are dreamers that produce results.